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Cuomo to Catholics: You’re Not Welcome in NY Print E-mail
By George J. Marlin   
Sunday, 19 January 2014

Editor’s Note: On Sundays we usually try to focus on spiritual matters, but this column deals with such a direct and serious threat that we thought it urgent to bring it to you today. – Robert Royal 
 

I was born in New York State and have lived here for more than 61 years. During that time I have paid plenty in state and local taxes and have served the public in a number of capacities including two terms as Executive Director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

I am also a Catholic and a member of New York’s Conservative Party, have served on the transition teams of governors-elect George Pataki (R) and Andrew Cuomo (D), and have been a member of Cuomo’s Council of Economic and Fiscal Advisors.

Yet despite my public service and the large chunk of my earnings that have gone to support New York’s governmental maze, according to Governor Cuomo, I should move out of the Empire State.

Why?  Because I am pro-life, oppose same-sex marriage, and have doubts about Cuomo’s 2013 hastily prepared gun legislation (the SAFE Act) that permits you to buy a gun with a 10-round magazine, but bans using more than seven shots if you need to defend yourself.      

Here’s what Cuomo said this past Friday on “The Capital Pressroom,” an Albany radio talk show, about a large segment of NY voters:

Who are they? Are they these extreme conservatives who are right to life, pro-assault weapons, anti-gay? Is that who they are?  Because if that’s who they are and they’re the extreme conservatives, they have no place in the state of New York because that’s not who New Yorkers are.

In an unguarded moment, Governor Cuomo stated publicly what many on the Left have been privately thinking for years: that pro-life and pro-traditional marriage supporters are Ku Klux Klan-like bigots who should either shut up or get out.

Cuomo has not only written off millions of New York Christians and Jews (among others) as unfit citizens, he has yanked the welcome mat from under half the nation’s population, who, public opinion polls indicate, oppose abortion and same-sex marriage.

As for those who “have no place in the state of New York,” the person at the top of that list must be the Archbishop of New York, Cardinal Timothy Dolan. That’s because Dolan has proudly followed in the footsteps of his predecessors who were unabashed defenders of Church teachings in the public square.

For instance, Cardinal Terence Cooke, NYC’s seventh archbishop (1968-1983), whose cause is being promoted for sainthood, publicly fought the passage of the state’s 1970 liberal abortion bill. And the week Roe v. Wade was handed down by the Supreme Court, he issued a pastoral letter that was read in every parish condemning abortion as a “fundamental moral evil.”  Cooke inaugurated the annual Respect Life week and established “Birth Right,” a service to help pregnant women who choose not to abort their babies.


           1977: Andrew Cuomo watches his father concede the New York City mayoral race.

As for “gay rights,” every year Cooke opposed proposed legislation in New York’s City Council that would have amended the administrative code to outlaw discrimination due to “sexual orientation or affectional preference.” You read that right.

A typical statement expressing the Church’s position, released by Cardinal Cooke in April 1978, reads:

If the bill has an underlying purpose, to advocate and gain approval of homosexual behavior and lifestyle, then there is no way in which the Catholic Church in the City of New York may find it acceptable. And there is no way in which we can remain silent on the issue.
 
The Catholic Church’s moral teaching differentiates between “orientation and “behavior” for both homosexuals and heterosexuals. While a person’s orientation is not subject to moral evaluation, there is no doubt that a person’s behavior is subject to evaluation. Homosexual behavior and an attendant homosexual life style is not in accord with Catholic moral teaching and is, in fact, harmful to all persons who become involved; heterosexuality is the norm for human behavior.

And lest we forget, in the mid-1970s Cooke had an ally in his fight against abortion and gay rights: Mario Cuomo, father of the current governor.

The New York Times reported during Cuomo the Elders unsuccessful 1974 primary run for lieutenant governor that he said in a televised debate that “he would have voted against the 1970 law that relaxed abortion curbs in the state.”  The New York Daily News and the Post also reported that, in his unsuccessful 1977 run for mayor, Mario said he would veto a gay rights bill “that would give homosexual teachers the right to proselytize or advocate their lifestyle.”

I wonder if Governor Andrew Cuomo, a baptized Catholic and a graduate of Archbishop Molloy High School and Fordham University, will demand that Cooke’s cause for canonization be, well, aborted because the cardinal was an “extremist” for defending the teachings of his Church. Will ask his father, himself a former governor, to leave the state for having politically incorrect thoughts forty years ago?

By claiming that people who disagree with his cultural views “have no place in the state of New York,” Cuomo has joined those whom historian Richard Hofstadter described as “totalitarian liberals,” people who employ illiberal means to achieve so-called liberal reforms.

Cardinal Dolan and the bishops of New York’s other eight dioceses have an obligation to respond and to condemn anyone – especially any Catholic public figure – who threatens those who adhere to Church doctrine.

Chicago’s Cardinal Francis George has predicted that he will die in his bed, his successor will die in prison, and his successor will die a martyr. We may not be quite there yet. But unless Church leaders and others act quickly and forcefully, Catholics and others of traditional moral views may find themselves not simply marginalized, but – if some politicians have their way – facing something very like exile in their own nation.

 
George J. Marlin, Chairman of the Board of Aid to the Church in Need USA, is an editor of The Quotable Fulton Sheen and the author of The American Catholic VoterHis most recent book is Narcissist Nation: Reflections of a Blue-State Conservative.
 
 
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written by Bonzano, January 18, 2014
How can such things be said about Cuomo when CDL Dolan declared him to be "a Catholic in good standing"? These are indeed confusing times for faithful Catholics. We need strong leadership in order to effectively carry out our role as informed and proactive laity.
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written by Laura, January 18, 2014
when considering the number of Catholics that helped him get into office, Gov. Cuomo should go to confession,
do his penance then spend a few hours, days, months, thanking God for the pro-life, anti-gay marriage people that voted him into office, and perhaps make an effort to get back to the faith he was baptized into.
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written by Dave, January 18, 2014
This is just the warm-up act. Let the remarks stand and watch how other Democratic governors across the country will pick up on it. Add to this the President's announcement to his Cabinet that if the Congress doesn't pass *his* laws, he will enact them by Executive Order. The hour is late, and now we have yet to hear if Cardinal Dolan or Bishop Hubbard will have anything to say.
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written by Jim M, January 18, 2014
Isn't it funny that Politico has called Maine's Governor, Paul LePage the "Craziest Governor in America". He just gave a rousing speech at a pro-life rally defending the traditional family - and this from a guy running for reelection in a blue state. But I suppose Cuome has never told anyone to kiss his b@&& . . .
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written by Matt, January 18, 2014
The good shepherd giveth his life for his sheep. But the hireling, and he that is not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and flieth: and the wolf catcheth, and scattereth the sheep: And the hireling flieth, because he is a hireling: and he hath no care for the sheep.
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written by CCR in BA, January 18, 2014
That is what Liberals do: they segregate, expel, persecute, put labels on people, etc. while hypocritically condemning those acts on others. They are the party of Freudian projection. The clouds of persecution are gathering on the horizon. Nero, Domitian, and all the other persecutors that followed are dead and gone. The Church will survive her bad bishops and her persecutors. Better get used to hot places, Mr Governor. I'll make sure to avoid your state and its products as much as I can. I hope all American and Canadian Catholics do the same.
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written by Debbies21, January 19, 2014
Not only is this insulting, it's a way to control your behavior. If you don't agree with his agenda, you are a bigot and will be subject to a hate crime. If you thing a transgender teenage boy should not be allowed to use a girls bathroom or locker room you are a bigot. If you own a business say a bakery and choose not to make a wedding cake for a gay couple you will be prosecuted.

The first think that must happen is the catholic politicians that actively endorse abortion must be prevented from receiving the sacraments. That includes receiving the Eucharistic and marrying their family members.

What have we done to ourselves and our country.
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written by Scott, January 19, 2014
New York is one of the worst states in the country by almost every serious measure, and is losing people almost as fast as CA. (They're both in a race to the bottom) So my bags are already packed, Andrew, and I'm just waiting for my stocks to clear and show up in my bank account, then I'm outta here. (Me and my money.) It's no secret that New York is hostile to common sense-- that's been obvious for a long time now. And don't worry, Gov., I won't let the door hit me on the way out.
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written by DeGaulle, January 19, 2014
I am encouraged, frankly. Cuomo's bluster is derived from fear and Obama's resort to threats of executive orders is hardly evidence of his winning the hearts and minds of people. What is Cuomo going to do, expel all the unworthies? And let's hope he tries-unlike him and his kind, we are stronger when we are weaker.
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written by Greg, January 19, 2014
Cuomo, sounds like you're on a diet of rotten Scungili's.
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written by Mack Hall, January 19, 2014
Don't expect leadership from Cardinal Dolan; he doesn't want to offend the good ol' boy power structure with whom he yuks it up at the Al Smith Dinner.

And, even more sadly, don't expect Catholics and Jews to stop voting for their oppressors, that is, when they vote at all.
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written by Frank, January 19, 2014
Our American Bishops, Archbishops and Cardinals will flap their gums, recoil in verbal indignation and leave it at that. Cardinal Dolan already declared Cuomo "a Catholic in good standing." If Cuomo's beliefs and actions are the "standard," perhaps the Church has more living Saints than it can imagine.
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written by Mark Hillyard, January 19, 2014
Leaving New York City might be a good idea. When the stock market crashes what will happen? Articles I've read and saved point to trouble coming for this World Wide Economy and this time I think it will be the final blow to Babylon the Great. When the disaster of 911 happened I was awakened to the idea that this was a warning to anyone watching that the Doom of Babylon was near. Isaiah 30 indicates to me that nothing out of the ordinary would cause this to happen, that is everything will seem normal..."25And on every lofty mountain and every high hill there will be brooks running with water, in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall." This will happen and I think it's a lot nearer than anyone thinks.
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written by Maurice Sheedy, January 19, 2014
If the pro-life, pro-traditional marriage New Yorkers all up and leave who will pay the taxes to support NYS. Without the taxes the "Progressives" will have little money for adequate police protection and will have to arm themselves or hire personal guards. Most importantly who will fund the medical care for the diseases associated with the safe sex life style and promiscuity in general? Probably Catholic Charities from out of state.
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written by grump, January 19, 2014
I'm a born-and-bred New Yawker who left 40 years ago and never looked back. Live in a purple state now but with a Republican gov and legislature and a strong sporting tradition.

I got my concealed carry license in a week by sending in my honorable discharge papers. Up here in the pristine North, we don't worry about locking our doors, securing our steering wheels with locks, violent crime and all the other horrors that go on day by day in present-day Gotham. Nevertheless, we take Jesus' words to heart: "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are safe." Luke 11:21

Though, as regular TCT readers know, I am agnostic though born Catholic but still believe in many of the teachings of the Church, including the sanctity of marriage as a sacrament ordained by God, the right to life, born or unborn, and related "traditional family values" I was brought up to honor and preserve.

I grew up in NYC under Mayors Impellitteri and Wagner, both of whom who would be considered miles right of the current officeholder, Bill De Blasio. Impellitteri, who ran a tight ship, took some heat for raising the subway fare to 15 cents to help rein in the budget and rightly deserved some credit for cleaning up a major police corruption scandal.

Wagner, also a conservative Democrat took on Tammany Hall and the rising homosexual movement by trying to close down the "gay" bars that sprung up in the city as the 1964 World's Fair neared. A Roman Catholic like his predecessor, he went on to become ambassador to the Vatican in 1978.

As for governors, back then we had Averill Harriman and Nelson Rockefeller, a Democrat and Republican, both who served with distinction. Rockefeller doubled the size of the police forced and adopted the "stop and frisk" and "no-knock" laws to strengthen police powers among a host of tough anti-crime movies. New York was the last state to have a mandatory death penalty for premeditated first degree murder. Rockefeller supported capital punishment and oversaw 14 executions by electrocution as Governor.

In a nutshell, I would not live in New York today if they threw me a ticker-tape parade and gave me a free week at the Plaza. Any resemblance between the New York I grew up in and the New York of today is purely coincidental.
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written by florin, January 19, 2014
Jan. 19th: We cannot hold politicians like Cuomo, Pelosi and Biden responsible when the Bishops assure them that they are Catholics in good standing with the Church and permit them to receive the Body and Blood of Christ. Cardinal Dolan was with Cuomo many times and afterwards, Cuomo seemed emboldened and so he gave a speech in which he shouted out: "your body, your choice!"...Pelosi declared abortion to be a sacred right - Biden went to Africa and told the new government there (I forget exactly where) - but he told them that if they would include abortion in their new constitution then the money would flow - if they refused, well...these public politicians do not merely 'support' the mass killing of human babies in the womb, they promote this agenda aggressively and consistently and to show that they are indeed Catholics in good standing, one with the teachings of the Church, Biden and Pelosi had tweeted from Pope Francis' inaugural Mass that they had indeed received Holy Communion - so there! Children who promote or themselves do evil things but receive no consequences from their parents will continue to engage in evil agendas. Their parents may pat them on the head and give them a talk telling them it's not right but the children will continue if they receive no consequences for their actions. The souls of Pelosi, Biden, and Cuomo and others are shriveling and the souls of those they convince that the mass killing of human babies in the womb is okay because they, these politicians, are Catholics in good standing with the Church, are also in danger. The Bishops should call these politicians who advance a murderous agenda, into the Church's 'field hospital' and try to help them understand how horrendous this agenda is - if they are adamant in their pro-death stance, then they should be gently advised that their souls are in grave danger and until they go to confession, and publicly repudiate this evil agenda, they must refrain from receiving the Body and Blood of Christ for their own good...perhaps this would be the catalyst which will bring them to conversion...and so we pray.
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written by Chris in Maryland, January 19, 2014
If courage is the indispensable virtue, Cuomo is giving Cdl Dolan and the rest of the Bishops in NY a chance to show just what they're made of.
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written by Avery Tödesuhl, January 19, 2014
Today's Office of Readings has the second reading from the Letter to the Ephesians by Saint Ignatius of Antioch, bishop and martyr. In that letter, the Saint and Martyr Bishop writes "I am led bound to Rome, being the last of the faithful that are there, who yet have been thought worthy to carry these chains to the honour of God." He was martyred between 98 and 117 A.D. In the first centuries of the Catholic Church, the decrepit pagan world became more and more converted to Christianity. In the last century, since the decadence of the fin de siècle at the end of the 19th century, the Western world has undergone the opposite process, falling away from the traditional faiths or so perverting them as to have left historical Christianity behind. This has been documented many, many times from a great number of angles. As a result the Roman Catholic Church stands at its weakest point in the West since at least the Age of Napoleon, and perhaps, the age of Arianism.

Cuomo Jr's comments are symptomatic of the falling away of many from their spiritual homeland. His father began his family's exit from the Roman Catholic Church and now he has completed it. Money and power have corrupted him as they do most politicians. The U.S. today resembles pagan Rome more and more each election. Faithful Catholics should be ready for governmental persecution within the next 10 years.

As for the Bishops, they are still adapting to the new situation. Most of them have not the insight of Cardinal George, who is a philosopher and theologian. Most of the Bishops are Canon Lawyers who think if they simply "keep the rule the rule will keep them." In ordinary times they would be right, but noun the times of the martyrs. When the government persecutes them, no canon lawery sleight-of-hand will substitute for spiritual insight and closeness to Jesus. If the persecution reaches that point, rest assured you will see many apostate Bishops, clergy and laity.

But be not afraid. The role of the martyr is the surest way to sanctity
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written by Rich in MN, January 19, 2014
I was surfing the "hall of mirrors" which is our collection secular media websites (CNN, MSNBC, AOL, etc.). I found plenty on the Chris Christie feeding frenzy (no pun intended), articles about Christian militias murdering Muslims in Africa, an article about some "Bachelor" contestant's arresting controversy (maybe an "arrestable controversy" in NY) when he said that there should be no "Gay Bachelor" programs, and I even found some vitally important article about Taylor Swift's fashion sense. But I found absolutely nothing, zilch, nada, regarding Cuomo's comments. Hmmm....

Anywho, I wonder if Governor Cuomo has ever watched either of the videos by the late Dr. Bernard Nathanson, "The Silent Scream" and "Eclipse of Reason"? I wonder if that would give him any insights into why some people are troubled with "choice." And, regarding the marriage debate, I wonder how he would react if someone rephrased the debate by saying, "You know, Governor Cuomo, your mother was ABSOLUTELY USELESS and WORTHLESS! Any MAN could have given you whatever she did! And your FATHER was even more PATHETICALLY USELESS! Any WOMAN could have given you whatever he did!" After Gov Cuomo (or probably his body guard) punched that person in the nose, maybe it might start dawning on him how interconnected the pieces of the puzzle that is the family really are. NAW!!! John Corvino would just parade out some child rescued from a war zone by a gay couple and that would quiet the voices.

Arguments in which the rare scenarios are used to invalidate the rules remind me of this guy who refused to wear a seat belt because he read a story about another guy not wearing his seat belt in which he hit a lumber truck, was thrown out of the driver's seat, and lumber subsequently came crashing through the windshield, demolishing the driver's seat. And people who think like this accuse others (like myself) of wearing the tinfoil hats....
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written by Manfred, January 19, 2014
Dr. Royal, Mr. Marlin:

Please explain precisely what the TCT readership is to do in response to this "direct and serious threat".
Thank you.
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written by Liz, January 19, 2014
Cardinal George's statement, while I understand his point, it was not what I wanted to hear a Cardinal/Bishop say in these desperate times. In all due respect... I wanted to see some meat between his teeth! Wanted him to say that the Bishops in this country need to pony up and welcome martyrdom if that is what it takes. Be willing to go to jail. Why leave the firing squad for your children? Be the Generals of the Church and lead. I know many of them do their level best, and Pope Francis must be grateful for their dedication to duty. But as a whole, they are dragging their feet, keeping their 'jobs' and waiting for someone else to save them. In the meantime, they turn off the lights and go nightie-nite!
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written by Deacon Ed Peitler, January 19, 2014
For me, I plan to call the Cardinal/Archbishop's Office on Tuesday and suggest that he recommend to the Holy Father that Governor Andrew Cuomo be awarded the Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice medal.

It is only fitting that this "Catholic in Good Standing" be recognized for his heroic defense of the faith in the face of an ongoing assault by sundry pagan forces in the Empire State of New York.

I, as a former born, bred and educated New Yorker, would gladly fly off to Rome to celebrate the awarding of this medal of great honor and distinction to Governor Andrew Cuomo. Who wants to join me in this effort?
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written by Patti Day, January 19, 2014
When they come to lock the doors of St. Patrick's I wonder where Cardinal Dolan will go.
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written by Chris in Maryland, January 19, 2014
Deacon Ed - that's perfect!
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written by Lea Anastasio, January 19, 2014
While I fully agree that abortion is murder, I think it important to say with conviction that homosexual "behavior" has changed radically from the 70's blatant, hedonistic lifestyle that was easily seen and even more easily linked to being homosexual when Cardinal Cooke was around (just as heterosexual "behavior", at that time, was much more conservative). The differences are clear: Gays and lesbians have voiced their desire for acknowledgement of their committed relationships while a lot of heterosexuals are opting now for much of the uncommitted hedonism that was rampant in the 70s in the homosexual community. Neither, in my opinion, is morally OK when their behavior smacks of a non-committed, only pleasure seeking, non-responsible, often not loving lifestyle. On the other hand, if a loving, lifetime commitment to another is the vision held, I say that there is room for this within our definition of marriage ("more [the children, who can now be adopted by same sex couples] and better {being the parents] of Christ".
And, as an aside, if Cardinal Dolan thinks Cuomo's views are acceptable, then it is understandable that he would not deny him communion. Perhaps Dolan is falling in line with Pope Francis' comment: "Who am I to judge"? In terms of abortion, I disagree with the State's position; with regard to same-sex marriage, I'm not so sure that this is morally wrong.
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written by Gary Allan, January 19, 2014
To all you liberals - he is telling you how to behave if you want to live in New York and pay taxes to him.
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written by Matt, January 19, 2014
Maybe our good bishops will now endorse the movie - "Escape from New York" ?
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written by Maureen, January 19, 2014
Church leaders who fail to forcefully condemn such intimidation are cowardly shepherds who are endangering their flocks.
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written by Gary L Perry, January 19, 2014
All New Yorkers should be outraged over Cuomo’s statement made last Friday on public radio’s “The Capitol Press.

Governor Cuomos’ words were unacceptable and divisive. We all heard his words and know exactly what he meant.

This man is unfit to be the Governor of NY. If a Republican would have said something like this the media, the press and the political pundits would be talking about this non-stop.

After hearing the Governor’s own words how could anyone possible reelect this man in November ?
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written by Jack,CT, January 19, 2014
Let me Be Clear:I have No Horse in this race!
I do not live in NYC and have only visited a few times
in the last 40 years.

I glanced the comments left and was facinated with the
lack of "Forgivness and Prayer" for a mistake at a presser!

After you get "Passed" the first "Four' paragraphs of
the writers "Resume' and failed poitical life he begins
to embrace the comments of his Gov.
Hints of a bitter man are pervasive but not the point so
"It is what it is"!

Well The Gov Did NOT STATE In Writing,
""THe Nations Narcissist Capital"" (NYC)
-Marlin Sept,2013
Among other statements the author prints as a 'Tax Payer".

So,any way Mr Royal gives a disclaimer that this Sunday
will be void of Spiritualism based on the "Direct Threat'
of the Gov. remarks on the radio,Really?
Sunday or not this is a "Spiritual site in theory at least
partly,Right?

I find this entire article interesting coming from a man
whose "resume" is as thick as Nyc and Jersey "Port Authority! {perhaps his perspective on the NJ gov. and that
scandel would shed some light on the "Politics"?
And for good measure "I" for one apreciate very much your
run for NYC Mayor a couple of decades ago but let it go man.

Perhaps the attacks on low income Project residents and
those attacks on "Americas Mayor" Anger some,as he is a
"Moderate" and not a "Rightist wannabee",sound familar
George? Last year you called half of New York voters
"Leftist Wannabees".

Alright the case has been made.


The attacks on Cardinal Tim Dolan over the "Smith diner"
are resurected as less than 48 hours have passed and he
has not "Publically" punished the Gov! (Silly and unfair
George)

I think a little differently than most conservatives as we
should not blame "Another man (Dolan) for anothers sin.

Make no mistake he was wrong and we as catholics deserve
more from the Gov. but he never held himself up as a
"Perfect Roman Catholic" as far as I know.

finally in all the comments left NOT ONE offers a
"Prayer or Forgivness" or perhaps a suggestion he
meet with a "Spiritual Adviser" perhaps cardinal Dolan!

.........Elections have Consequenses my friends all I
can say is "Vote"!

"....and the prayer of faith will
save the sick person ,and the
Lord will raise him up."
-James,:5:15

Well God Bless us all and have a good one.



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written by Jack,CT, January 19, 2014
@Lea,continue to be a counter balance,
your view is refreshing and very
honest.
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written by John 3:16, January 19, 2014
Of course the liberals want to eliminate Christianity, especially Catholicism, since Christ stands for freedom, tolerance, love. Wherever Christ is, freedom endures. They are trying to eliminate and minimize Christ so the liberals can control people's every move. Christ will not be diminished nor silenced. God said it, I believe it, enough said.
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written by Ireneus, January 19, 2014
Cuomo's sense of history is clouded by his politics and his small intellect. History will harshly judge this modern day Pharaoh-Herod and regret it badly.
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written by Lutheran, January 19, 2014
Wow - just wow. In here are the comments of those slamming the gov and the cardinal, those wishing forgiveness and soul-searching, and those thinking that same-sex marriage might not be so bad.

Ask yourselves what Jesus taught. "Feed my sheep; feed my lambs; feed my sheep." How can we love one another better? Is it right for those of us to engage in the same kind of talk gov cuomo engaged in back at him and others? (no, it is unhealthy for us) Is it right to suggest that a same-sex marriage is in Christ a healthy and loving relationship simply because they act nice to each other and sometimes nicer that male/female couples? (no, it is unhealthy for them and us) Is it better we pray as they will not know our prayers for them and for each other, praying that we may be drawn closer to Christ and to each other in the way HE wants our relationships to grow? (of course!) Are we to be confrontational with those who do not share our beliefs? (never, look how Christ was only confrontational with the people who should have known better and never with the "commoner")
--I'm a Lutheran, and I love you RC's too...
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written by Matt, January 19, 2014
To Jack,

A Governor of a major state publicly states that he wishes for various groups of people with certain Christian beliefs to leave the state as they are now viewed as outcasts. Cuomo knowingly applies the term “extremists” which is the current political tool used to label any group that politicians target for scrutiny by law enforcement and further harassment by government agencies.

Under this serious social context you present the Governor as merely being a less-than-perfect Catholic. You miss the obvious- Cuomo is no longer Catholic – he has repeatedly rejected the fundamentals of not only Catholic teachings but natural law. You also admonish the posters on this site that they are, rather than Cuomo, unchristian in attitude due to their lack of charity and love for the governor’s wellbeing.

When Herod ordered the slaying of the Holy Innocents I am sure there were people then, such as yourself, which had the audacity to tell the shocked and angry people that king Herod was really a good Jew - just not a perfect Jew. When Herod’s son came to power and scandalized through sexual immorality, I am sure that the Jews then had people, such as yourself, that primarily criticized John the Baptist rather than Herod. Perhaps they too even contended that John just had a political ax to grind due to his obvious failures... being in the desert and all.
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written by Stan j, January 20, 2014
So why do clerics continue granting communion to blatant, militant anti-Catholics like Cuomo, Nancy Pelosi and Jerry Brown? They are just as bad as "catholics" at the polls who elect baby killers and perverts. We have corrupt tyrants in office and the "catholic" voters are their enablers.
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written by Andre, January 20, 2014
The moneylenders are in the Temple.

Remember what Jesus did?

'Love thy neighbor' does not mean tolerate their crimes.
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written by Jack,CT, January 20, 2014
Dearest Mathew,
God Bless you and thanks for the concern.

I have not been critical or give my "Own" reasons for prayer,I agree.I certainly did not endorse any behavior as you remark either.
The Gov is less then a "Perfect Catholic" as are you and I
sir.
Secondly,you say Cuomo is no longer a "Catholic",did you get
some inside information from say Cardinal Dolan over night?
I think you "Upsatged" any remark I made with this "Proclamation"!

Third,I certainly did nothing of the sort when you state i admonished" those who comment,I stated A Fact,not one "Charitable offer" for Prayer was offered and if I missed it please show me.

The People like Me",remark is interesting since as far as i
know we are strangers to each other,but you get a pass for
youth,lol.

Finally,please accept that we" Are" better when we point others missteps out in a loving way rather then trying to remove "eachother from our faith'.

Well,Happy MLK day and I hope 2 days is all we have here
with "CuomoGate".(after all we lost 21 people over seas and Iran is closer than ever to having a "Bomb'........Etc
PERSPECTIVE,I Call It,

@StanJ,You make very,very Valid points!
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written by a Orthodox Jew, January 20, 2014
If Andrew gets his way NY State will be added to the list of places jews have been exiled from (if he doesn't decide to murder us)

LGBTQA... are possibly biggest threat to Judaism ever.

No person in NY should ever vote for a gay supporter no matter what.
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written by Roman C, January 20, 2014
Religious intolerance in leadership is a very dangerous thing. All citizens, regardless of religious beliefs and affiliations, should be free in our country to practice their faith. The governor demonstrated poor judgment in expressing those intolerant, though personal, views in a public forum. It only emboldens others to carry forward on that theme, which ultimately leads to the ostracizing of fellow citizens. It is a tactic we have seen in the past, from regimes and reichs. I think the governor needs to apologize, and be much more careful about expressing his private prejudices in public forums.
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written by Amadan, January 20, 2014
Cardinal Dolan will be permitted to stay in NY as long as he continues to call Andrew a "Catholic in good standing"
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written by Benton Farmer, January 20, 2014
Jack, my Brother, you don't make a lick of sense.
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written by Gerard Nadal, January 20, 2014
You may read my response at my eponymous website.
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written by Catwalan , January 20, 2014
The man is a poor excuse for an Italian American.
Even a mobster has more ethics than this jerk.
His words will come back to haunt him!
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written by t4drman, January 20, 2014
NY...as well as all of America...you don't get what you deserve, but what you negotiate...and you rationalized and justified and negotiated in your brain to vote in a boob like Cuomo. Now you get what you deserve. Enjoy it. It won't stop here.
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written by Angie, January 21, 2014
True practicing Catholics should not vote democrat. That is not to say that they must vote for the republican as there are third party options. In voting for the party that fights for for the right to murder millions of babies each year YOU are enabling that wrong. Wake up!
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written by George L, January 21, 2014
It is time for all Christians to stand up and be heard. We have values and a right now lets start to fight back.
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written by RichardB, January 21, 2014
I found the article fascinating, especially the review of Cardinal Terrence Cooke's position on Abortion Rights and Homosexual Lifestyle, as it relates to Governor Cuomo's 'in-your-face'comments about 'Pro-Lifers, Anti-Gay Marriage, 2nd Amendment Fanatics(They're not Assault Weapons'etc. This will rank as the second biggest slap in the face of Cardinal Dolan, after POTUS Barack Obama's promise that ObamaCare would not force Catholic Healthcare Institutions and their Insurance Coverage to offer birth control products and services! When is Cardinal Dolan actually going to get the message and stand up to the task? I'm writing from St. Louis, where the Good Cardinal Timothy Dolan,served as Auxiliary Archbishop, and in whom I had great hope because of his conservative stance on Pro-Life and Homosexual Marriage. As an aside, this past weekend, all the good little Catholics from the Archiocese boarded the busses for the annual trip to Washington D.C. for the 'Right-To-Life' March, "to influence our Leaders in the Federal Government, to adopt a more 'Pro-Life' stance" In the fifteen years, that we've lived here, rarely have I heard any Priest in a sermon educate and promote the Church's position on Pro-Life and Homosexual Marriage, especially prior to a National Election('08 & '12)! However, within a month of the election, we're asked to fill out postcards re-inforcing our 'Pro-Life'stance and send them off to our elected officials in Washington!! That's been extremely effective hasn't it! I wonder how many of those 'Good Little Catholics' or their families who've travelled to Washington for the 'Pro-Life' march voted for President Obama? According to the '12 election results, somewhere around 50-60%!! The sermons, K-16 Education, and the Church Clergy are having a profound effect on the flock, aren't they! I'm waiting to see whether Cardinal Dolan will have the guts, like Cardinal Terrence Cooke, to call the Governor what he should- A Catholic Not-In-Good Standing!!
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written by Louise, January 21, 2014
Wow George, as of the time of this post, your column has 887 likes. This must be some sort of a record for TCT! Congratulations! You have helped to bring attention to an important issue and I see concern is spreading. Thank you
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written by schm0e, January 21, 2014
"We" have been stepping up for years, and have had substantially less impact on the direction of this republic were it not for the fact that Catholic Church in the US loves to cozy up to power so much.

As for the culpability of the bishops -- this should not even be up for debate. Did you hear about the Priests that molested the children? Who was running the show when that happened?

Did you hear about the Saul Alinsky initiative that was blessed by a bishop in Chicago and became the Campaign for Human Development that is arguably still undermining the Church's mission through its network of subsidiaries today?

And you mention "Obamacare" -- didn't you hear how many bishops were in favor of it? Why, the one right here in the Archdiocese of New York saw fit to have published in parish bulletins, during the "debate" over whether to pass the law that nobody bothered to read, this very quote: "The Church has been advocating for socialized medicine for a hundred years". That innuendo found its way into not one, not two but at least three of his commentaries.

Did you not hear that, no, there was nothing to worry about regarding Obamacare and the Church because Dolan had an "understanding" with Obama? Apparently he felt that Obama had assured him of a waiver of some kind for the Church. The idea of the law was so onerous that, while he implied a good Catholic couldn't be against it to us in the pews, he thought he had wheeled and dealed and exemption for his organization.

Culpability of leadership? Have you noticed that the people in high places who are working so hard against the cause of life are none other than "Catholics" and have been since the Kennedy's?

Yes, we need to step up -- TO THE BISHOPS.
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written by Sally, January 21, 2014
Unless Cardinal Dolan (or whoever has the authority) excommunicates this so called Catholic, nothing will change. How can the officials in the Church allow him, Pelosi, Biden and other receive the Blessed Sacrament. It is about time they stepped up to the plate and did what they should have done years ago. These people give PUBLIC SCANDAL and are making a mockery of Catholic teaching.
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written by Daniel, January 21, 2014
New Yorker's are too cowardly to do the right thing. And those in power know this and take advantage of it. Again, New Yorker's are cowardly, contrary to the "tough-guy/girl" image.
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written by Tony, January 22, 2014
When will the Bishops of our Church finally get religion, and EXCOMMUNICATE these in-name-only Catholics like Cuomo, Biden and Pelosi, all of whom support abortion, and constantly wage war on Pro-Life Christians. It sickens me that they remain SILENT while our faith is under constant attack by these murderers of the unborn.
To the Bishops: Get some courage and DO WHAT IS RIGHT!
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written by paul, January 22, 2014
No Catholic can ever vote for the Democratic party of evil. If you are a Catholic and vote for Democrats you need to look at their platform and see that it is contrary to your religion. The only Catholic or Christian that can vote for Democrats are the ones who are only Catholic/Christian for one hour on Sunday and don't live the faith.
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written by potvin, January 22, 2014
Leadership in the Catholic Church is non-existent and Cardinal Dolan proves it by calling Cuomo a "Catholic in good standing". If Cuomo is a Catholic in good standing then the rest of us must be saints. What a joke. Excommunicate the heretic now!
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written by Rick, January 22, 2014
Why isn't Cuomo excommunicated for his beliefs that are not the same as the Catholic church's? I know people in my area that have been thrown out of church for less than this. Especially for publically speaking of this against the church's beliefs. Has the Catholic church's beliefs changed?
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written by Frank, January 22, 2014
Cheers for George Marlin, a true Catholic leader. Gov. Cuomo has crossed the line and his very salvation is now in question. Catholic leaders, including Cardinal Dolan and Bishop Hubbard, must take swift and decisive action to insure that the "Catholic" Cuomo is reigned back in. "Political" Cuomo can do as he pleases,but when he openly chastices Catholic beliefs, his lack of Catholic fidelity places him solidly in the heretical class.

A great Catholic priest who graduated from Archbishop Malloy High School demanded that his photograph be taken down from the Wall Of Honor at the school lest he be associated with the Governor. More Catholics, from Malloy, or Fordham, or from the Chancery of the Archdiocese of NY need to follow this great priest's lead as Our Lord is seeking today's Saints who will defend His persecuted Church. We need to join George Marlin and this great priest on their march to sainthood. Maybe a Catholic March On Albany is in order.
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written by Frank, January 22, 2014
The phone number for Archbishop Malloy High School, in Queens, is 718-441-2100. All Catholics, including alumni, should consider calling the school and asking them to take Gov Cuomo's photograph down from their Wall of Honor.
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written by mary, January 23, 2014
Excellent article -- delighted to see the response of good Catholics -- we are the Militant Church and we must defend our Church even if some of our prelates will not. Jesus will deal with each one of us in time when He, the Lord of all - opens the Book of our Life. Noone can escape that moment. Pelosi, Cuomo-ecc.. not one of them -- and no prelate can escape from not protecting The Sheep Jesus Himself entrusted to them - Why are so many of our clerics afraid today? What is that fear? God does not inspire fear but hope, trust and courage. Those who do not speak the Truth will be held accountable as much as those who are doing what Cuomo is doing.
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written by paul ob, February 05, 2014
he's a bum just like his father and brother......
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written by Spurwing Plover, March 25, 2014
American can realy do without this arrogant pompious old peacock frankly he needs to pack up and move out im sure he,ll be welcome in some communsists nation where they persicute all religous persons

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