Comments for Church and Sect at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 12 out of 12 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Wed, 22 May 2013 03:26:09 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/church-and-sect.html#comment-1977 One needs to obey the laws of the land and those of God. Period! GOD FIRST! The laws, as set by God, are forged in stone and there is no debating them, and when those laws are in conflict with those of the Nation, it is the Supreme Right of any Individual to express his dissention with the Law Makers. NO ONE must disobey any of the pre-set laws, but Everyone has the RIGHT to propose changes to any law with which one is in discord with, so that everyone will benefit from these changes.... - angelo Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:53:00 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/church-and-sect.html#comment-1553 Catholic comes before any other marker in your life. As Robert said - dead is a long time. We are currently seeing that the Church will easily outlive our country. We, as a country have begun the "slide" down the slippery slope of relativism. America suffers from having too much. Too much of everything good eventually creates an entitlement attitude, which is what we now suffer from. I have never worried about my childrens future in America....I do now. - God, Corps, and Country Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:59:26 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/church-and-sect.html#comment-1510 Josiah, The Church allows for the death penalty in certain circumstances. It never allows for abortion. The reason the Church will never take the death penalty off the table is that there is no guarantee that even in our advanced society we will not be in a state of nature in 100 years just as She recognizes that many parts of the world are in a state of nature now. And the Church also recognizes that those in prison are also our brothers and need protection, too - Austin Ruse Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:21:10 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/church-and-sect.html#comment-1505 If I did not believe that the Catholic Church teaches what is true and real, I would not be a Catholic. Catholic first, American second! Departing from reality and truth can only bring harm. Therefore I must hope and pray that my country comes to know truth and reality. - Jeannine Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:24:48 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/church-and-sect.html#comment-1504 Typical Catholic misunderstanding of Evangelicals. Jesus was not politically active because he knew that it would derail the the church. The Vatican has always been a political machine and not the Church that Christ built. So the article should say Catholicism a cult deceiving people for 2000 years. - Gary Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:48:00 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/church-and-sect.html#comment-1503 Pope John Paul the Great wrote in his encylical, Evangelium Vitae, the capital punishment is defensible "in cases of absolute necessity, in other words, when it would not be possible otherwise to defend society. Today, however, as a result of steady immprovement in the organization of the penal system, such cases are very rare, if not practically nonexistent." This is the Magesterium's current teaching, through which history and tradition are appropriately interpreted. - Josiah Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:47:24 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/church-and-sect.html#comment-1500 I'm sorry to disagree with Josiah. I did my thesis on the traditional stance of the Church in favor of capital punishment. Aristotle and St. Thomas Aquinas agree. A man faced with death is far more likely to repent. I've seen it as a hospital chaplain for 14 years. Those faced with impending death are far more likely to make a good confession than those who think they have more time here on earth. - Fr. Kloster Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:12:32 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/church-and-sect.html#comment-1502 "I die the king's good servant but God's first" St. Thomas More - Benjamin Harnwell Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:11:51 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/church-and-sect.html#comment-1498 I'm sorry, Robert Royal, for responding first to a commentor rather than praising you for such a fine article. In many ways we are approaching a societal situation similar to one the early Christians faced. How do we act morally in a society that lauds (and even institutionalizes through law) immorality? What choices will we make when the government demands that we bow before the false god of tolerance--a tolerance that would have us abandon all moral standards? - Dana Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:45:50 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/church-and-sect.html#comment-1497 it's kind of funny, no sad, needing to even bring this up. i feel sorry for those people who equate being Catholic as Catholicism being their religion. to me, being Catholic is BEING. it is who i am. just like belonging to God, Father, Son & Holy Spirit--without Whom i can do or be nothing. Being Catholic makes me a better human being, American or otherwise. The Catholic Faith is air to my supernatural lungs; water it down by any means of dilution, politics, to be accepted, etc & i'll drown. - debby Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:45:21 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/church-and-sect.html#comment-1495 "Traditionalism", improperly understood, can also lead to sectarian beliefs wholly inconsistent with Catholic tradition. Not only are issues of life (opposition to abortion, homosexuality, embryonic research life) part of orthodox Catholic belief, so are the alleviation of poverty, the elimination of racism, opposition to capital punishment, high standards for defining "just war", fighting institutional anti-Semitism, etc. - Josiah Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:48:42 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/church-and-sect.html#comment-1493 Lately, I have been watching the the "Tudors" on Showtime on Sunday evenings. In the most recent episode, Charles Brandon, Lord Suffolk, was ordered by Henry VIII to punish rebels in York for wanting a return to their Catholic ways. No doubt he was a loyal fellow and had some qualms of conscience as he said to his wife, "I have no choice, he is my king." He killed men, women and children. Years earlier someone said while waiting for the ax to fall, "I die the king's good servant but God's first." - William Dennis Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:49:25 +0100