Comments for A House Divided at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 50 out of 20 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Sat, 18 May 2013 17:46:17 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1899 What is mushy are these essays that lump dissent from HV with dissent on abortion. Abortion is infallibly condemned in Evangelium Vitae sect, 62 and Humanae Vitae was introduced at its press conference as non-infallible twice by the papal spokesman, Msgr. Lambrushini. Are people making money off this fake conflation? Moral theology tomes allow prayerful and studied and counseled dissent with the non-infallible issues but not with infallible issues. Stop with the essays that conflate the 2. - Simeon Stylites Sun, 24 May 2009 17:11:22 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1898 In my small opinion, the past forty years of mushy catachesist has contributed greatly to this lack of Catholic unity. I am very proud of the bishops who spoke up and of the many students who did the same, however. Notre Dame is no longer a Catholic University in my thinking. - Diane Louise Antoni Sat, 23 May 2009 21:38:11 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1897 Thank you Dr. McInerney. I too have often wondered why holy mother church has failed to act. Many years ago a close friend and priest told me that by the year 2000 we would not know the Catholic Church - Peter F. Hughes Sat, 23 May 2009 10:18:36 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1865 This is truly a tragic event but be grateful that in the United States you at least get to voice your opinion. The situation is even worse in Canada where people are not even allowed to discuss this for fear of being charged with crimes by the Human Rights Commission. - Randall Milburn Wed, 20 May 2009 19:35:36 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1861 Isn`t this all to be laid at the foot of the bishops, most of whom feared speaking truth after Vatican II? At a time when the people needed the strongest voices of modern times, they heard almost nothing. And as for pastors, those men so good at raising large buildings, they and clerics under them usually proclaim little of value, and with styles of speaking that nearly put one to sleep. O well the Spirit is not near. - Patricia Samodelov Wed, 20 May 2009 13:43:15 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1856 Thank you for clarifying mwa (no. 41) and apologies for presumption and my congratulations to Professor McInerny. My question still stands for those teachers who consider themselves Catholic but are teaching within such a deeply Protestant university. Please leave the burning building lest a naive soul think it safe to enter. Please let go of the prestige and be willing to become "a fool for Christ"! - Susan Wed, 20 May 2009 12:53:40 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1844 My prayer is that God will send us bishops and university presidents with the clarity of thought and the moral conviction of Ralph McInerny. Professor McInerny rightly cites God's penchant for choosing "the foolish things of the world to confound the wise" and "weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty". My money is on the faithful at the Rockne Memorial and their God. - Randy Watts Wed, 20 May 2009 07:40:29 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1840 How wonderful are the works of the Lord! Thank you for this articulate article, which has brought so many of us together! What happened Sunday was disgraceful. My husband and I watched on tv, and we payed attention. It was truly sinister. But how many united as true Catholics as a result! Who are we to say how most Catholics should act? God's grace touches us all in different ways, and maybe this mass Catholic lunacy is the fire that lights the Church militant into loving action! - Andrea Maciejewski Tue, 19 May 2009 19:54:24 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1837 My comments regarding civility were not aimed at anyone in particular, and we at The Catholic Thing want spirited comments. Your response to my post speaks well of you, and I certainly hope you'll continue to share your thoughts with us. -Brad - Brad Miner Tue, 19 May 2009 16:28:49 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1834 . . . these very issues are so important today. If I have been inappropriate or rude, I sincerely apologize to all who are rubbed the wrong way and especially to Mr. Phalen. Achilles - Achilles Tue, 19 May 2009 16:24:01 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1832 Brad, I owe Wil an apology. I disagree so fundamentally with his conclusions that seem to me to be grand sweeping generalizations based on myopic, peripheral and minute evidentiary facts. It is obvious that Mr. Phelan is sincere and intelligent. While we are brothers in Christ we seem not to share first principles when it comes to logic and Truth claims. I thought this would be an excellent forum to dialogue to common ground. I only comment on Wil’s statements because these very issues are . . . - Achilles Tue, 19 May 2009 16:23:39 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1835 To Susan (comment 32) Dr. McInerny is retiring from ND this June; see his article "Is Obama Worth a Mass?" on this site http://www.thecatholicthing.org/content/view/1346/26/ - mwa Tue, 19 May 2009 16:22:59 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1831 A searing critique, fully merited and elegantly framed. - John Jay Hughes Tue, 19 May 2009 15:13:37 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1829 "Perhaps it will come to that, but the awakening of the laity, simple priests, a large number of the bishops, suggests that this is a possible epiphany." I'm sorry, I have to disagree. I know you work for NDU & so this has to be hard on you but I've lost a daughter to abortion, so its hard on me too. She'll never have a chance to 'dialogue' or 'stand tall' with the other students on your campus. The time for fence-sitting is, as you rightly point out, over. That's what got us into this mess. - therese Tue, 19 May 2009 14:51:54 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1811 I intend to make it a habit to turn to Dr. McInerny for wisdom and clarity, both of which were exhibited in the finest essay on the question of the Enlightened One's pilgrimage to Notre Dame. I shall link to this essay on my next blog over at pomocon (First Things). It is because I believe in miracles and in the hard work of people like Dr. McInerny that I think Notre Dame can, indeed, be 'saved!' - Bob Cheeks Tue, 19 May 2009 09:06:45 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1809 Great job Mr. McInerny. Our house is divided as in the Arian Heresy and during the reformation. As a Protestant who reunited with the Church of Our Lord it scares me to see Bishops making the m Mass more Protestant. I did not join the Church to become Protestant again. The changes in the m Mass that started with Vatican II are the root to the poor catechises of the faithfull today. Tradition was cast away. Vatican II has caused a second reformation. Satan continues to divide the faithful. - Rick Hnat Tue, 19 May 2009 05:57:19 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1808 It has been impressive to see some of the bishops and Mary Ann Glendon take stands on this. In the long history of taking stands on faith principles that have political implications, there have been some really classy ones. This one reminds me of Pope Gregory at Canossa, receiving the Henry the Holy Roman Emperor in sackcloth and ashes. May we all be able to act on our convictions with the same kind of courage and class. - Kate Ernsting Tue, 19 May 2009 05:56:02 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1807 David, The standards of civility apply to all. As to Ralph McInerny's evocation of Dr. Johnson's famous quip that he "who sups with the devil must use a long spoon," it was not, in my opinion, aimed at POTUS but at the willingness of Catholics to welcome public officials, laws, and policies that abide abortion and other anti-life, anti-Catholic principles. Brad Miner - Brad Miner Mon, 18 May 2009 20:41:30 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1806 Excellent analysis, Dr. McInerny, except....why do you remain at Notre Shame? What would finally have to happen to induce you to leave an institution that is so thoroughly corrupted? Is it possible that you also are being used to tempt people to rationalize that there is "balance" at Notre Shame in the same way that Mary Ann Glendon was? I feel like a firefighter pleading with someone to leave the burning building before others (new students) endanger themselves rushing in to the rescue. - Susan Mon, 18 May 2009 20:32:36 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/a-house-divided.html#comment-1805 Brad, re. your note on civility: should this not also apply to columnists? Today, Professor McInerney referred to President Obama as "the devil." - David Mon, 18 May 2009 20:32:11 +0100