Comments for Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg: Eugenicist at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 16 out of 16 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:54:58 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-eugenicist.html#comment-2389 She was speculating about some of the social forces behind the case rather than her own personal beliefs. A link to the interview should have been provided. Just another lesson in not taking things out of context... - Sylvia Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:35:29 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-eugenicist.html#comment-2347 i hope you haven't left yet. you need a mother. Our Lady wants you to know Her love, how precious your life is to Her, how Her Son longs to be in communion with you, how even your sins- the sins of anger (Jesus equated to murder), lust (Jesus equated to adultery, even rape), even your sin of hate (have you gained the world only to lose your soul?)- yes, your sins He paid for. darwin gave you no self worth. God gives you life eternal and infinite value. i am praying for you. - debby Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:00:15 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-eugenicist.html#comment-2342 So long, indeed. - Brad Miner Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:51:27 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-eugenicist.html#comment-2341 Your ideology about the "sanctity of life" is laughable. Life is not sacred, nor it is a right. It is a struggle. The life of a child rapist or serial killer is worthless. Your religious delusions are what brought us this overpopulated world, wasteful, overrun by the scum, the worthless, the insane and the criminals. Look around you. Sumner was right. Facts alone speak against you, but your religious blindness and your inability to comprehend reality are not really surprising. So long. - Darwinian Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:49:22 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-eugenicist.html#comment-2338 Excellent article and comments. Mr. Marlin, you need to interview Judge Ginsburg to clear up any misunderstanding. She should be very willing to set the record straight. - Dan Deeny Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:47:05 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-eugenicist.html#comment-2337 Dear James, I am right there with you, as a Catholic, I find your analysis embarassing. If only all Catholics could be so clearsightedly self critical, well done! - Achilles Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:46:49 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-eugenicist.html#comment-2318 Honestly now, even if your assertion about Ginsburg were true, she quite clearly characterized her sense of the reason why Roe was decided as it was. Put another way, even if she personally disapproves of eugenics, she has affirmed that she believes the Court--or the litigigants in Roe--did approve of eugenics as a justification for the decision that has led to the extermination of millions. - Brad Miner Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:04:34 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-eugenicist.html#comment-2314 This is indeed taken out of context. The NY Times piece is a verbal interview, not a written text. Justice Ginsburg is doing something people often do in speech--characterizing a position she doesn't hold by speaking "from" that position temporarily. In other words she's speaking "in character," as it were. Read the preceding few questions, and the entirety of her response to the question highlighted here, and that becomes clear. As a Catholic, I find this analysis rather embarrassing. - James Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:57:28 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-eugenicist.html#comment-2313 Excellent article Mr. Marlin! You were crystal clear in your supportive comments, the mud thrown into the water has sunk very quickly. A most deflating aspect of today's culture is the fact that direct, incisive and intelligent commentary stings the weak minded like a jelly fish. This seems to be testament to the failure of self esteem building in the public schools. THanks! - Achilles Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:46:58 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-eugenicist.html#comment-2310 In response to Joe about the quote being taken out of context:While I agree that it should be mentioned about the timing of the statement. But take a look at the grammer of the quote as well, "populations that we DON"T want to have too many of." "Don't" as in "Do Not" meaning (perhaps by mistake) unwanted present populations. That's what gets to me. She didn't say "populations that THEY DID NOT want too have too many of [at the time of the ruling]." Well done Mr. Marlin. - Ashley Collins Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:59:11 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-eugenicist.html#comment-2309 I didn't see where you pointed out to your readers, just to make sure they understood of course, that Ginsberg wasn't on the court until 1993, 20 years AFTER RvW and was speaking in regards to what she "thought" those on the court might have been thinking at the time. There is no follow up because it was only speculation on her part. This is a Catholic website, I would encourage you as a Catholic to not take one sentence out of context (as protestants do) and try to preach a message on it. - Joe Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:15:25 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-eugenicist.html#comment-2308 Mr. Marlin's analysis is most welcome. For an unvarnished secular reaction, see the response to Jonah Goldberg's column in the L.A. Times online today, particularly the unabashed name-calling on the part of those progressives who think abortion is a virtue. They are admittedly unfazed by the deaths of millions of unborn children, but they don't seem too eager to follow them to the grave by committing suicide. - Bill Loughlin Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:14:43 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-eugenicist.html#comment-2305 I disagree w/Linda's interp of slander. Ginsberg is a professional judge. She knows what she is saying. What context can justify her comment? Jesus said we would be judged according to the words of our mouth. W/respect, I would hope that in an effort to love our ememy we would not remain silent when faced w/evil. History is full of the blood of innocents who died on the altar of "what seems right to a man." Prov 16:25 I am grateful for the Catholic commentary/reporting. - debby Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:12:54 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-eugenicist.html#comment-2304 The Truths are no longer self-evident. - EJCM Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:12:16 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-eugenicist.html#comment-2303 I think that it would be better to stay with arguing a principle and its logical underpinnings and to refrain from singling out a particular comment made by someone who is given no chance to explain her context. Perhaps Justice Ginsberg meant what she seemed to have said but perhaps she did not. We risk commiting slander or at least detraction when we engage in this kind of commentary. - Linda Smith Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:37:25 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-eugenicist.html#comment-2302 C.S. Lewis' "Abolition of Man" or Huxley's " Brave New World," may be good reads or re-reads at this point. It is noteworthy that the world sponsered programs to eliminate poverty by way of abortion are aimed at third-world countries who are thought to have too many Blacks or Latinos reproducing. These white wealthy elite probably have more control over policy that we think. With the moral disregard of infantacide,embryo experimentation and euthanasia, are we engaging in the sins of the past? - Willie Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:50:59 +0100