Comments for Head Chef in the Cafeteria at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 35 out of 20 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:59:08 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2734 I came to this site hoping to find inspiring Catholic thought. Today marks a low point in that quest. The author's vitrol concerning a man judged fit to be buried in full Catholic ritual by Cardinal O'Mallley (and do you doubt, his superiors) and the recipient in his final days of a sympathetic response from the Pope is incomprehensible. To which Church does this site pledge it's fidelity. A self described man of flaws was buried today. He who is without sin... - Ron Sat, 29 Aug 2009 23:03:43 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2731 i cant help but wonder if King Herod were, say a US Senator , who would be at his party, watching Salome exercise her God-given talent & natural law "rights as a citizen"-would she be lap-dancing? stand-up comedy act or a roast? whatever- who would be at Herod's table? who would be in jail with St. John the Baptist? somehow w/the display of what should be VIrture instead bowing low before money & power, my mind cant find many prisoners, but sadly many revelers, too many dressed as clerics - debby Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:23:41 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2732 Perhaps you must be from the working class and working poor to appreciate my favorite Kennedy moment: After Pres. Bush committed $24M for Wash DC vouchers, the senator shouted on the Senate floor (on CSPAN):"I'll stop this if it's the last thing I do." You can't really know what's in the human heart. Do you need to? Such politicians are creating an America that is without pity and a without a future. RIP Senator. But may our Gracious Lord help us. - Graham Combs Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:23:05 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2730 Oh for goodness sakes people. Get off you high horses. Brad -- BRAVO. - Laura Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:49:41 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2728 How long are we supposed to wait after a man's death to tell the truth, especially in light of all the public adulation in the mainstream media? How long have the innocent unborn to wait for justice? - Joe Wichmann Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:49:04 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2726 I wonder if 'Catholic fan of Ted' has "fits of apoplexy" every time another "doctor" murders an innocent child with complete impunity, thanks in large part to all the Kennedy brothers. I think leftists/liberals have fits of apoplexy any time you say something true about one of their hero icons they turn into gods and worship. I wonder what they'll say and how long they'll wait to say it when W dies (a man who didn't help provide for the mass slaughter of American children). - Jacob Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:57:05 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2725 Bradley, does the fact that Kennedy's family was at the time you wrote preparing him for burial change the truth in any way? If you don't like Mr. Miner you're free to say that..but you seem to be making the consummate American mistake of wrapping up whether or not you like how Mr. Miner gets to his point with whether or not what he says is truthful. A very important and neglected distinction in Western society! - Jacob Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:56:07 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2723 The former spirited but always civil discussion that once characterized this site and firstthings.com is being altered by readers who are not of good will toward Catholicism (or who want to see their particular views imposed upon the Church). Their comments intrude on what was formerly a family circle of believers. Their opinions are welcome; their tone is not. - An elder reader Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:39:13 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2721 Willie, no need to educate us on the nature of this website... we all know it's about 'Catholic Things'... and nobody to my knowledge was attacking the substance of Brad's criticisms. So Face the truth and suck it up' is something that you might want to look into doing yourself... the relevant truth being that it is always poor form to attack and/or nitpick a dead man in a public forum while his family grieves their loss. This should not be controversial. - Wil Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:45:17 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2719 A Reader wrote and I am sure Bradely concurs: "Should we really be gloating over anyone's death?" In what politically correct world did this ever become gloating? - Achilles Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:24:02 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2718 I thnk that Fr Ted Hesburgh of Notre Dame is at least as responsible as Ted Kennedy for debasing the Faith in the US and for providing intellectural cover of the highest order for all those politicians who early left the Faith but didn't get around to leaving the Church. - Dennis Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:23:36 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2717 Since it is difficult to attack this article on the basis of its substance, it seems on the part of some to attack the author for being insensitive, imprudent, being tasteless and God knows what other nasty epithet is forthcoming. This website is about Catholic things; Mr. Kennedy's Catholic thing was a farce and scandal. Face the truth and suck it up. When Pope JPII died it took one hour before the media dissected his life from one end to another. Tell me what a proper wait is. Bravo TCT. - Willie Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:23:17 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2715 Why was John the Baptist beheaded? For criticizing a public figure for sleeping with his brother's wife. John knew nothing of political correctness, or political sensitivity. He spoke the TRUTH.. few have the courage to call a spade a spade. St. John, give us the courage you had!! - H koczur Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:41:15 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2713 I don't think Jesus offered those remarks while the public figures' families were preparing them for burial. - Bradley Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:18:58 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2712 The point of my book was to put the sword back in a man's hand, As to "basic decency," I think we might say that Jesus did not offend true decency when he spoke of some public figures as "blind guides" and "whited sepulchers." - Brad Miner Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:15:27 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2711 Mr. Miner, there is a point at which inappropriateness becomes inexcusable. You're right, this is not a site for eulogizing Kennedy, but it is a site for intelligent Catholic commentary. Is the level to which Catholic commentary is degraded? Should we really be gloating over anyone's death? The re-hashing of Kennedy's public (and private) sins (and the oh-so cute reference to Harry Potter) make your article sound less like commentary and more like invective. I, for one, am ashamed for TCT. - Reader Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:14:48 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2709 Basic decency is not limited to eulogizers, Mr. Miner. Wasn't that the point of your book about chivalry? This is in the public domain. So please allow the man a dignified burial and his family a chance to grieve. You could have waited until Monday! This is not complicated - it's basic decency. My grade school teacher, a wonderful old school nun, would have rightly swatted my knuckles with a ruler for something like this and then sent me to the parish priest for a confession. - Bradley Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:07:46 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2708 To those who've written here that my column is right on its facts but wrong in its, what?, tastelessness, I will simply point out that I wrote it for this site, not to be given as an oration at Sen. Kennedy's funeral. Had I been asked to eulogize him, I would have done something different: I would have declined. - Brad Miner Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:35:31 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2707 Thanks for your article. God have mercy on him, but during his life and career, he was an enemy of the Church, at the same time claiming to be Catholic. He (once pro-life) is responsible for more babies dying because he made certain there would be no judge appointed to the Supreme Court who would overturn Roe v Wade. I cannot believe his funeral will be at a Catholic Church, with Obama once again taking the spotlight in the Catholic arena. - H Koczur Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:44:24 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/head-chef-in-the-cafeteria.html#comment-2706 God Bless you, Brad. Pray for this man's soul-yes. But we all need to have the courage to speak the truth, which you did. Does Ted's public record offend? it should-grave sin is offensive. is this"throwing stones?" Ted stood by his record. The Good Thief SHOUTED,"WE DESERVE THIS - DEATH BY CRUCIFIXION- FOR WHAT WE HAVE DONE" BEFORE he asked for forgiveness. the Gospel records public sinners repenting publicly! just how cheap should we count the Cross of Christ? it cost God everything. - debby Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:28:24 +0100