Comments for Wrong Lessons Learned at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 11 out of 11 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Sat, 18 May 2013 11:37:33 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/wrong-lessons-learned.html#comment-3183 Gary: Aside from overly rigid linear lines of scientistic thought, the assumptions that undergird your assertions are faddish at best, ignorant of Truth at worst. It would take far more than 500 characters to initiate the conversation. Deborah, Flannery O'conner said "sentimentality is to Religion as pornography is to art." The Truth doesn't bend to our personal preferences and especially not to our "feelings." "[F]urther complicate the legal system?" This is your excuse for tolerance? - Achilles Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:52:10 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/wrong-lessons-learned.html#comment-3182 I don't actually think, if you look closely, that Americans (or at least some) believe it is wrong to judge people on the basis of the color of their skin (see Affirmative Action). AA, even though it is a systematic practice of discrimination as elaborate as Jim Crow, is considered good because it utilizes discrimination as a means toward achieving equality. This is the real evil for many Americans, not discrimination (which is morally neutral in itself) but inequality. - wood rogers Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:46:51 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/wrong-lessons-learned.html#comment-3181 Sexual orientation is immutable in all scientific understanding, and protecting equality for the minority (Gay and Lesbian persons) has no harm to anyone. Therefore, discrimination on sexual orientation is irrational. Further: the social benefits of marriage apply equally to Gay and straight couples. Marriage civilizes and domesticates, a good outcome for all. Only if you require procreation to get married (and annul childless couples' marriages) can you defend the ban on same sex marriage. - gary47290 Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:16:40 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/wrong-lessons-learned.html#comment-3177 If you're going to defend Scott Fitzgibbon's right to speak out despite pressure to the contrary, then I wonder how the church defends CatholicVoteAction.org's heavy handed effort to silence equally brave Catholic Yolande Dumont's position in support of her son. - diosthenes Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:23:57 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/wrong-lessons-learned.html#comment-3176 Deborah is determined to ignore the nature of man, what God has revealed of himself, what the Magisterium teaches, and common sense, all because of an agenda that trumps everything. That agenda is called "liberal" but it is really simply relativism which recognizes no truth but that which the individual, with self-pride, asserts. - Martin Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:05:03 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/wrong-lessons-learned.html#comment-3175 Another MAJOR fallacy learned by way of the successes of the Civil Rights Movt, is that the state has the ability to grant and rescind "rights," when this is precisely the opposite of the truth. A govt is established to protect rights - which pre-exist and transcend the state. There has been valuable discourse on "rights language" in recent years, and it correctly exposes the ways in which the demand for the establishment or regonition of a "right" imposes new and injurious demands on society. - Adam Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:08:43 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/wrong-lessons-learned.html#comment-3174 Demands for 'tolerance' always betray the tyranny-in-waiting just below the surface. Here the 'tolerant' at BC bare their knuckles and come forth with fascism - You will be tolerant, or else! My prayers are with Prof. Fitzgibbons. - Adam Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:07:10 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/wrong-lessons-learned.html#comment-3173 I will bet there many more people who hold professor Fitzgibbon's view than are willing to admit it. Why is that? - Mike Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:05:51 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/wrong-lessons-learned.html#comment-3172 O judgment! thou art fled to brutish beasts, And men have lost their reason. - Bill Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:39:54 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/wrong-lessons-learned.html#comment-3171 It seems to me the rationality of this argument presupposes that the sole purpose of marriage is procreation. It may be. But in this country legal marriage provides other benefits unrelated to procreation. Should those benefits also be denied to gays on the basis that the purpose of marriage is procreation? Or should we further complicate the legal system by adding new laws to provide those benefits to gays? - Deborah Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:49:14 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/wrong-lessons-learned.html#comment-3170 I had read nothing about this matter until today. Perhaps there were carefully reasoned letters to editors but I saw none. Perhaps someone raised the alarm that the barbarians are now at the gate but I did not hear that person. Such a silence! Such a shameful silence from those at Boston College who might have used this situation to advocate for the truth. - Ars Artium Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:48:29 +0100