Comments for Are We Beyond the Conflict of Science and Faith? at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 10 out of 10 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Sat, 25 May 2013 12:36:03 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/are-we-beyond-the-conflict-of-science-and-faith.html#comment-3467 Joseph: Dawkins did not debunk the idea that science and religion can co-exist, he merely maligned it. The fact that some scientists disagree with some religious people does not prove that science and religion are at odds. (Consider the many religious scientists.) Also, you refer to "the eternal clash of faith and reason," and thereby imply that faith and reason are eternal. This does not reconcile very well with Dawkins's worldview. - Philip Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:09:03 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/are-we-beyond-the-conflict-of-science-and-faith.html#comment-3374 Re Joseph's comment: I think there is no clash between Faith and Reason, and none can ever be shown, per Willie's observation. I think that to state it more precisely, there is a clash between the Atheistic-Rationalist Ideology, as represented by Dawkins et al, and Theistic Rationalists, as represented by such as Francis Collins, Benedict XVI, Isaac Netwon, Galileo, Copernicus, etc, etc. The latter group seems much more productive, interesting and attractive than the former. - Chris Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:16:45 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/are-we-beyond-the-conflict-of-science-and-faith.html#comment-3373 #1 wrote: "Professor, the debate will never end." Indeed, because man is always tempted to play God himself. Dawkins (and his ilk) wants the 1st Commandment to apply to him: he is a jealous wanna-be: eliminate God so Dawkins can take his place. Satan; Adam; Dawkins ... though the sin is not the same in degree, in essence it is: non serviam and I shall have no others before me. - Aelric Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:15:58 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/are-we-beyond-the-conflict-of-science-and-faith.html#comment-3372 Could someone please provide more information about Our Lady's University. Can you get material to study about Catholic philosophical issues from this or any other place through the web? - Loreen Lee Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:15:15 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/are-we-beyond-the-conflict-of-science-and-faith.html#comment-3371 Thank you for your remarks, John. As for your statement that God is not an interacting cause, but an enabling cause, I would prefer to substitute God as the Enobling Cause of mankind! Blessed be God in all His designs! Laura - Laura Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:59:17 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/are-we-beyond-the-conflict-of-science-and-faith.html#comment-3369 It takes no effort for a religious man to grasp that the non-contradiction of Faith & Reason: he sees that they both originate in God, point to God, & both will pass away when we He unites us to Himself. The atheist toils forever forbidding himself & others to think about the origins of nature, even while nature decays before his eyes. God asks Job, "Have you commanded the morning since your days began, and caused the dawn to know its place?" The atheist responds "I won't think about that." - Chris Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:08:16 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/are-we-beyond-the-conflict-of-science-and-faith.html#comment-3368 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament showeth his handiwork (Ps 19). You either believe that God created the universe, ex nihilo, or that matter is eternal. Any such creation cannot be analyzed by empirical methods such as a scientist would do without creating a conflict. Such an analysis would not comply with natural cause and effect. One exposed to Christian philosophy should realize that faith and science are not contradictory but exist in different quadrants of reality. - Willie Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:38:26 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/are-we-beyond-the-conflict-of-science-and-faith.html#comment-3363 Professor, the debate will never end. Stephen Jay Gould, the late Harvard paleontologist, thought science and religion could co-exist -- an idea debunked by atheist/darwinist Richard Dawkins (The God Delusion) as a political ploy aimed at soothing both sides. Dawkins crossed swords with Francis Collins, a believing Christian, in a Time magazine story -- a classic example of the eternal clash of faith and reason. - Joseph Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:45:24 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/are-we-beyond-the-conflict-of-science-and-faith.html#comment-3365 "The gods of the pagans were always intervening and messing about with the world of nature and human beings." Do we not believe - de fide - that in worldly time since The Creation God "messed about" at (1) The Fall (2) The Incarnation (3) at the ensoulment of each and every human being, or is my understanding tinged with gnosticism or foolish misunderstanding? PS The above doesn't really detract from the thrust of an excellent argument. - Londiniensis Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:26:13 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/are-we-beyond-the-conflict-of-science-and-faith.html#comment-3364 Regarding science and faith: There are scholars who seem to believe that their discovery of a brain/chemistry connection to, for example, altruism or another human quality, proves that there is no God but only biology. I cannot understand why they think that one aspect of human existence must explain the whole - that "natural causality eliminates the possiblity of divine causality." - Ars Artium Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:06:14 +0100