Comments for The End of Common Ground at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 16 out of 16 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Thu, 23 May 2013 11:51:06 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-end-of-common-ground.html#comment-3517 Fifty million Americans have been killed in 36 years since Roe v. Wade by abortion. The current issues are assisted suicide and euthanasia and they are/will be part of the health bill. If I were waiting for Christian armies to rescue me from Dachau or Auschwitz, I would still be there watching the Christian leadership having tea with my tormentors. - William H. Phelan Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:36:54 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-end-of-common-ground.html#comment-3471 There are many libertarian Ayn Rand Republicans who hate the pro-life cause; Obama can make a deal with us or he can make a deal with them. The children in the womb are safer if Obama makes the deal with us. Of course Obama and the Democrats are trying to win. Of course we can not trust them. But we can not trust the libertarian crowd either. - Richard Bruce Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:42:56 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-end-of-common-ground.html#comment-3469 Bradley, Just pointing out there are limits to dialogue. Sorry you did not get that. Moreover, I would point out the death of our children from abortion now exceeds the ghastly work of the Nazis. Yes, let's have tea and crumpets with the killers and those who support them. Now, I am not saying there is no room for conversation, but that it's being done not by people like you but by those who stand outside of abortion clinics turning women and doctors away from the killing. You should try it. - Austin Ruse Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:14:13 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-end-of-common-ground.html#comment-3468 I don't think that Pope Benedict XVI is a gullible man. If you will remember he shrewdly gave the President a book explaining Catholic teaching on life issues. You may also remember that the President told the Pope he was going to do everything to decrease the abortion rate. In other words he lied to his face. But then to lie to one's face is historically no uncommon trait for some world leaders. I don't believe the author or commentators in any way implied this Pope is gullible. - Willie Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:47:46 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-end-of-common-ground.html#comment-3466 The author, Dan and Willie have all used the term "gullible" to describe certain Catholics, in particular certain clerics and the Vatican. I guess this group would include Pope Bendedict the Gullible, for graciously welcoming President Obama to the Vatican and engaging in dialogue with him. - Pio Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:08:14 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-end-of-common-ground.html#comment-3465 True. That is why we have to open more fronts. Pointing at the immorality of abortion is not enough. We have to make the case for women who suffer the physical and psychological consequences of abortion. We also have to point to the demographic "time-bomb," and to the environmental fallout of both abortion and birth-control (e.g. estrogen in water). We also have to stress that this is a genocide and there will be a Nuremberg one day. - Carl Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:08:59 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-end-of-common-ground.html#comment-3461 Amen. It's hard enough fighting these battles, without being undermined by gullible, but well meaning Catholics. Haven't they learned by now that the Obama administrations talks out of both sides of its agenda? - Dan Kennedy Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:05:54 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-end-of-common-ground.html#comment-3460 I'm not sure where you are going with this, Mr. Ruse. The Nazi military regime was stopped only with overwhelming physical force. Is that what you are proposing? Should we bomb clinics, kill doctors and jail women who have had abortions? Let's say we adopt your strategy of pitched political battle and then lose the Stupak vote. What then? More abortions and hardened hearts. The bookends of Catholic history give us clear direction on how to act: St. Paul's Epistles and Gaudium et Spes (28). - Bradley Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:05:33 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-end-of-common-ground.html#comment-3459 Well here we go again trying to make a moral equivalency between killing innocent life with intent and death in war. Gullible Catholics and liberal minded Roman clerics should wake up! It is all well and good that Obama is anti-war and all that but so was Neville Chamberlain. Face it this president in his past and present is the most pro-abortion politician that ever was. He is in debt to the abortionists as we are daily treated to duplicity. There is no room for common ground with evil. - Willie Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:04:49 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-end-of-common-ground.html#comment-3457 The pro-abortion lobby has always reminded me of the little boy with his finger in the dike. He is afraid that if even one drop escapes, the whole dike will collapse. Abortionists are against parental notification, laws against partial-birth abortion and any reporting of minors seeking abortion among others because they are afraid the slightest crack in the dike will reveal that real live babies are being killed and they have no defense against that. - Chris Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:45:20 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-end-of-common-ground.html#comment-3456 I was talking with a friend at work about the "health care" concerns of the Democrats. Boiling the issue down to its simplest component-it's all about power and control for them. The Democrats are not concerned with the health of the common man but the ablity to control whatever comes thier way. Its that simple. - Joe Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:33:27 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-end-of-common-ground.html#comment-3455 When people suggest we "find a half-way point where we can find common ground", I ask, "Where exactly is the half-way point between a dead baby and a live one?" - maggie Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:32:44 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-end-of-common-ground.html#comment-3454 The expenditure of federal (taxpayer) dollars for abortion is as reprehensible as the spending on the unjust wars of aggression and occupation prosecuted by the U.S. government. Where is the "outrage" when it comes to spending $2 trillion on "defense" in the past decade? Hardly a whimper of protest. The "killing fields," whether in or outside of the womb, go on in the distorted name of "freedom." Obama's hypocrisy, by invoking God time and again to stake a moral position, is plainly obvious. - Joseph Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:51:06 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-end-of-common-ground.html#comment-3453 Yes, let's see if we can get the Nazis to stop invading other countries and killing Jews by dialogue! Yes, let's all chat while the bodies of little babies mount up. Let's all sit down of an evening, sip tea and dialogue while the defenseless little ones try their hardest to escape the knife. Yes, Bradley, let's do that. - Austine Ruse Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:49:29 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-end-of-common-ground.html#comment-3452 Thank God there are Cathalic voices against this terrible Health Care Bill. This counry can do better than socialist health care. - Dennis Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:35:29 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-end-of-common-ground.html#comment-3451 The job of the pro-abortion forces is, as you point out, to win. Despite the temptation to adopt this standard, our job is different: as Catholics, we are called to convert. So while we should never compromise, on Stupak or related matters, we should always engage in dialogue, always with love, humility and patience. As Cardinal O'Malley pointed out, the only way we ultimately stop abortion is to convert hearts. It's hard work, but God's love is more powerful than their political tactics. - Bradley Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:29:59 +0100