Comments for The Acid Reflux of the Questioning Church at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 25 out of 20 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Tue, 21 May 2013 13:30:13 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3706 Oh, please. Next time, try sorting out secular politics from open theological issues from actual history from the core issue of unity--that's a credal element, by the way. Unlike blind obedience. Its in the nature of resistance to sin to think of others as more sinful (read: angry, heterodox, etc.). The culture of victim has spread to the Catholic Right: it was someone else's fault we couldn't hold on to a rosy-colored past. - Todd Sun, 20 Dec 2009 06:45:25 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3687 For those who think that the novus ordo is a product of the "questioning church": If anything, the fault belongs to the ICEL, not the NO. Go to a mass not in english (say, Spanish), and you will see that the translation is much more faithful to the Latin text (ex: El Senor este con ustedes- y con tu espiritu). When I saw the changes that were going to be implemented i was quite amused how much more like the Spanish its diction was. Just my two cents... - angela Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:14:14 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3675 Dear Joseph, I too am a great doubter and a very slow learner- I don't think prayer is a pre-condition for the gift of Faith, but it is an act of the will to believe, a root if you will, and the vision that follows is the gift and the fruit of the tree. "Credu ut intelligam" believe my brother and you will soon see it! This modern world is adroit at clouding our minds with radical skepticism, radical individualism- see through the mist, but not through our first principles. - Achilles Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:11:01 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3665 Dear Achilles, thanks for reminding me of Augustine's advice. If faith is a gift from God, as we are told, is it a gift given to all? Does one pray for the gift of faith as a condition to receive it? If so, I have asked for that gift and have yet to receive it, it appears, as I am constantly plagued by doubt. So, too, was the apostle Thomas, who had to be convinced by seeing first. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe, Jesus said. That remains my prayer. God be with you all! - Joseph Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:54:38 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3664 I second Bender's comment. What in the world is a "quite effective" Mass?? A very poor choice of words indeed! And I agree with Ars Artium. Generally I concur with the content and the aim of this article, but am troubled by its strident tone and playful, ad hominem barbs. We must love the Church, and defend her everywhere she is attacked. But we are certainly not called to attack our fellow baptized children of God. The condescension in this article will convert no one's heart. - Adam Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:39:34 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3663 **the Novus Ordo is valid . . . it can be quite effective, though it can’t compare to the 1962 Missal. Yet the Novus Ordo is the Mass the Questioning Church gave us.** Such faint, damning praise. Actually, there is only ONE Mass. ONE. One God, One Faith, One Church, One Sacrifice, ONE MASS. The *Questioning Church* did not give us the *Novus Ordo* Mass. What is so contemptuously called the Novus Ordo here and elsewhere is the One Holy Mass given to us by the Lord Jesus Christ. - Bender Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:27:18 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3662 Dear Msgr Fitzpat: Yes, God loves us all and He wants to us know and proclaim the Truth, which means accepting and procaliming what the Church founded on the Rock of Peter holds to be true. If you are not disturbed by members of your flock or your fellow priests deceiving innocent Catholics into believing that evil things are good and that Catholics can believe whatever they want, then you, Monsignor, are a part of the problem. You must recall what happens to the lukewarm. - Thomas C. Coleman, Jr. Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:45:21 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3661 Dear Joseph, What did St. Augustine suggest we do? Instead of floating down the river currents of modern thought where we all have to see it to believe it, we "must believe it first, then we will see it." We use our intellects to confirm what Christ told us, we are compelled to ask questions from a stance of reverence, The Q Church, asks questions from the stance of defiance. It is all the difference in the world. Bless you, please pray for me too! - Achilles Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:44:24 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3660 God Bless You, Mr.Ruse for writing this brilliant article. The nuns in the pantsuits whom you refer to are typical of the Dominican nuns who taught me in college and looked NOTHING like that. I have long ago stopped supporting them. God Bless our holy Catholic Church and people like you who are speaking out for the truth and the beauty of the Church. So much has been lost and generations are growing up without a single clue as to what the Catholic Church really is. You give me much hope. - Judy Knutsen Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:20:02 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3659 Poor Questioners - "always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth." Even they were included in Jesus' prayer that we all be one; let's all be ready to welcome them back if they ever stop asking the wrong questions. - Bill Daugherty Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:19:30 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3658 Martin: there are some bishops that would not answer all of those questions affirmatively. The Novus Ordo was an important part of my conversion. It can be understood by a "Bible Christian" as simple as I was. It has also served as a way to see the "fruits" of those perverting the truth. Novus Ordo as presented by EWTN daily, can be a beautiful Mass. But when reverence is lacking it can be awful. If the "revolution is over" I say "good riddance!" - Chuck Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:19:03 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3657 I do hope and pray that your assessment is correct. - TonyC Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:17:45 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3656 And your point is? Stop all questions? Accept all dogma as pronounced from Rome? People have been asking questions and for the most part getting few answers before and after they sat in Plato's Cave wondering what all those shadows on the wall are. Austin, life remains a perpetual mystery and some of us who remain puzzled and seek answers, and, alas, are left with doubts that can never been resolved so long as man quibbles over what words mean and what purpose, if any, life holds for us. - Joseph Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:17:37 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3655 The Novus Ordo isn't that bad, when prayed correctly! - Zach Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:16:58 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3653 I've been puzzled as to the reaction of so many regarding the Vatican's reasonable study of the American sisterhood. The fact that so many are reacting as if this is some sort of attack indicates the level of their estrangement from the Church, I think. Sad days, but perhaps from it will come a reinvigorated group of nuns and sisters who can lead the next generation within Church teachings. - Jennifer Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:15:38 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3652 This article makes my day. Maybe there is hope that the years of prostitution of Vatican II will come to an end. If these radical feminists, homosexual lovers and abortion advocates are unhappy with the Catholic Church, why don't they find another niche to crawl into. I really do think that most of today's nuns are of good intention and welcome this Vatican review. Many religious orders need, however, to redefine themselves or disband. Most of all they need to try praying together again! - Willie Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:14:43 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3651 I believe we're hearing the death rattle of the worldwide Left. - Christian Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:14:02 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3650 I used to read the NCR and the Register each week, because I thought I would find truth between. I stopped reading the NCR long, long ago. It has no part of truth in it at all. It should be called Pravda. I have never read Commonweal or America and don't intend to start. - Peadar Ban Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:13:49 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3649 Bravo!!! Thank you for writing this article and Thank You for "The Catholic Thing". Publications such as this not only help restore the Holy Catholic Church’s orthodox identity, but also signify by its very existence that a vibrant Catholic intellectual tradition is once again ascending. - Timothy O' Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:13:16 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2009/the-acid-reflux-of-the-questioning-church.html#comment-3648 As Mr. Ruse aptly suggests, this is indeed an exciting time to be a Catholic. Cardinal Francis George addresses this same issue eloquently in his book "The Difference God Makes" on pages 166-168. He calls the efforts of the Questioning Church (what he refers to as "liberal Catholicism") an "exhausted project". This is a very worthwhile read. - Vincent Muscarello, MD Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:12:37 +0100