Comments for Excommunicate Pelosi at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 14 out of 14 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Tue, 21 May 2013 01:32:18 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2010/excommunicate-pelosi.html#comment-15536 The Bishops have NO COURAGE! Get used to it. It's pathetic to even discuss the possibility that even one bishop in the US would dare take such an action against this diabolical collection of pro-abortion Catholic politicians. Because of their lack of action, few lay people bother to listen to the Bishops on all levels. Empty robes. - Hank Mullaney Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:50:05 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2010/excommunicate-pelosi.html#comment-4416 And where in the CCC does it say that homosexuals must be Catholic? There have been claims, emitted by some, that alcoholics, zoophiles and pedophiles are born that way and, like homosexuals, cannot help what they are. So apparently with that reasoning society must accept those forms of behavior also. Remember; "love the sinner, hate the sin." - hoome Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:54:22 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2010/excommunicate-pelosi.html#comment-4389 I need to add to my column a qualification from canon lawyer Edward Peters, whose work I cited. At his website (In the Light of the Law) he points our that he has never called for Mrs. Pelosi's excommunication - only that she be denied Communion. It's an important distinction and one I'm sorry I hadn't grasped and made clear. About Mr. Peters' position, that is. I remain persuaded excommunication is ther appropriate correction. - Brad Miner Wed, 23 Jun 2010 08:03:20 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2010/excommunicate-pelosi.html#comment-4388 Francis, because Pelosi is probably the only one who is so blantantly obstinate? my thought anyway. - miss Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:19:40 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2010/excommunicate-pelosi.html#comment-4379 The sea change with regard to Democratic politicians' view on abortion came at the instigation of Jesuit Father (and Congressman) Robert Drinan's counseling, along with other noted theologians, of Ted Kennedy in 1964. Numerous Democrats followed suit. The theologians have continued ever since, up to and including Marquette theologian Dan Maguire. The politicians are following what is considered sound but dissident theological opinions. If excommunication is considered, it should be directed at the source. - Howard Kainz Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:02:26 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2010/excommunicate-pelosi.html#comment-4378 The bishop in Washington DC and the bishop in San Francisco are the ones to refuse to excommunicate Pelosi. I don't believe Bishop Burke has this ability. But Wuerl and Niederauer are Vat II bishops - those who believe, incorrectly, that God is a warm and fuzzy being who admits all to His table and we should teach with Love and not excommunicate anyone. They are sorely mistaken as God is also Justice. Pelosi has learned nothing from these bishops, who converse with her, as well as the Pope. Are they afraid of her power? are they her "friends"? Why are they afraid to take on this woman whose arrogance and hubris trump anything I have seen in years. She has done nothing for the Church. She should be excommunicated. I urge all to send Mr. Miner's column to them. Lord knows I have written them enough on this subject. Maybe his article will do the trick!! - Liz Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:03:10 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2010/excommunicate-pelosi.html#comment-4377 Pelosi's apparently intransigent refusal to recognize Church teaching is a continuing scandal and a continuing embarrassment to the Church. I pray that her Bishop will have the courage to take whatever action(s) are available to him and proper, to resolve this scandal. You have my gratitude for making the case. Pax et bonum, Keith Töpfer - Martial Artist Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:17:30 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2010/excommunicate-pelosi.html#comment-4376 Kick out the gays? No where in the CCC does it say that homosexuals cannot be Catholic. They must be abstinent. - Kathleen Torres de Klavon Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:11:42 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2010/excommunicate-pelosi.html#comment-4375 No, the laity cannot excommunicate, that responsibility (it is not a choice) lies with the hierarchy. But our prelates are very preoccupied these days -- with the residue of the scandals, advocating the nationalizing of health care, lobbying hard for amnesty - and it is thus the burden of the laity to work to fight contraception, scandal, and other intrinsic evils that have unfortunately fallen off the bishops' radar (Let us hope only temporarily). One of a myriad of examples, little-known to the people in the pews: The USCCB **supports** full funding and passage of a foreign aid bill that contains half a billion for contraceptives and abortifacients for many Catholic countries, and another $55 million for abortions. These are intrinsic evils. Why do our bishops support funding them? Our bishops are obviously distracted. We love them but we must oppose them when their prudential political opinions get as bad as Pelosi's. Their mistakes are unintentional, to be sure (after all, they have to rely on their bureaucratic "experts"), but hers are very intentional, manipulative, and yes, objectively scandalous. - Christopher Manion Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:13:22 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2010/excommunicate-pelosi.html#comment-4374 Well said, Brad. Along with others mentioned, if possible throw Ted Kennedy out posthumously. His last-ditch effort to win the Pope's blessing was pathetic, but Rome's tepid response was disappointing. The Church needs to make it crystal clear that there is nothing more important than the sacredness of a single human life. - Joe Mon, 21 Jun 2010 06:37:52 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2010/excommunicate-pelosi.html#comment-4373 Pelosi and others have in fact thumbed their noses at the Church. These so called Catholic politicians parade around as good Catholics because their freedom of conscience allows them to embrace evil? Since when and by what kind of reasoning does freedom of conscience trump evil? If the Church condemned state sponsored murder for the sake of eugenics would this be a violation of "separation of church and state?" Yes! I believe the Church has an obligation to denounce these hypocrites for what they are or allow the scandal to corrupt the body of Christ. Abortion is a flammable issue. We hear very little teaching about the subject from the pulpit. The Church, I believe, is being held hostage by a liberal agenda. It is time to speak out and prune out this ugly canker sore! - Willie Mon, 21 Jun 2010 04:39:54 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2010/excommunicate-pelosi.html#comment-4372 Excommunication isn't about sweeping the Church clean. It is a medicinal action, the primary intention of which is to urge the excommunicant to repent in order to return to the Church. The failure to make public what is almost certainly already a fact regarding Madame Speaker's excommunication not only creates disunity and fails to address the scandal she causes. It also fails to treat her with genuine charity. - Mark Mon, 21 Jun 2010 04:39:37 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2010/excommunicate-pelosi.html#comment-4371 The Canon that you cited refers to those who have been excommunicated AND others who are in manifest in grave sin, suggesting that there is a difference. Secondly, from what I gather (and I am not a canon lawyer), the latae sententiae penalty is restricted to a specific set of offenses (is this one of those cases?)Certainly, something should be done. But the more prudent course might be to begin with canonical sanctions of some kind. Perhaps as well Bishops should be more direct in their statements (correct her theological mistakes certainly, but also admonish more forcefully and more directly in public). - william williams Mon, 21 Jun 2010 04:01:27 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2010/excommunicate-pelosi.html#comment-4369 So refreshing to read an article that tells the TRUTH. Except...why only Pelosi? What about Biden, Kerry, Durbin, and all the rest? And abortion is an evil in a league of its own but what about the GAYS? Sweep the church clean! - Francis S. Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:26:11 +0100