Comments for Ordination of Women and Abuses of Priests at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 7 out of 7 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Wed, 19 Jun 2013 05:56:36 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/ordination-of-women-and-abuses-of-priests.html#comment-6342 Mr. Combs: Your question has been ignored - however, I will humbly attempt to answer it. It is because of liberal leanings in the church that the likes of this woman, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, Kerry, the Kennedys, et al., have been allowed to actively participate in the Church, receive Communion and spout their own "teachings" since they know better. Unfortunately many of our priests and bishops, by doing nothing, encourage this. Their argument often is that charity and kindness should rule; they picture God as some warm fuzzy that loves unconditionally and would never, ever punish His children. They forget that while God is truly Love, he is also Justice ... and mercy. They are doing these people no favor and are enabling their bad behavior. Again it is the thought that we all know better than God and His Church. Check out Canon 915 and then think about how many people you know are in violation. No we should not judge but we should be aware. - Liz Sat, 19 Mar 2011 11:42:28 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/ordination-of-women-and-abuses-of-priests.html#comment-6341 Mr. Arkes's main point has been summed up again and again by orthodox Catholic theologians (of both "genders," by the way), so that the misunderstanding of the self-styled feminists is starting to seem willful. Just as a man can do many things a woman can do, so women generally can do almost everything men can do. But they cannot be bridegrooms. As John Paul II put it, the Church simply doesn't have the authority to ordain women. At the core of the shallow feminist demands for ordination is a shallow understanding of the faith, which supposes with any number of Protestant denominations that the Eucharist is nothing other than a symbol. If you believe in women's ordination, you are not a Catholic. - John II Sat, 19 Mar 2011 10:51:08 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/ordination-of-women-and-abuses-of-priests.html#comment-6321 Over the years our Catholic institution has struggled to face a hornet's nest of issues and abuses. They have been widened by other political events. These are the basis for a tremendous number of connections to our civilization in today's renaissance of sorts. The trend creates the same pattern that forms division and corruption. And no single silver bullet can get rid of them as humanity continues to stumble and commit sins. Let us continue praying for our Mother Church. Our mission is to articulate the legacy that Jesus has given to his apostles. Our sense of being and doing profile embraces in general the totality of being called to fulfill our vocation in this call. - mark a. escobar Thu, 17 Mar 2011 04:04:42 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/ordination-of-women-and-abuses-of-priests.html#comment-6308 I spent some time studying in Rome many years ago. The Italianate culture of the Church there, the famous Romanita, was not one that valued AngloSaxon sincerity; it responded with unpitying if sometimes feline clarity to challenges against authority. Unless the culture there has changed, it would not surprise me if the juxtaposition of the two issues was conscious. And if there was not some pleasure taken at consequent feminist umbrage. - EssemSF Wed, 16 Mar 2011 06:03:05 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/ordination-of-women-and-abuses-of-priests.html#comment-6306 Ok, I'm going to ask a question that perhaps only a convert of recent vintage -- and thus shallow knowledge -- would ask. Why was someone who has left the Church and, perhaps, rejected her teachings reading from Scripture at Mass? Should not those readings come from soneone who is devout, who goes to confession and takes holy communion? Who recites the Nicene Creed with belief? Who does not believe, for example, that the Sacrament of Marriage is no more than a side dish on the cultural menu of the day? Or who believes that the mass is no more than, as the priest in Brian Moore's novel CATHOLICS says, "a pious ritual?" By the way, Cardinal Ratzinger in SALT OF THE EARTH quotes a radical feminist Catholic academic who writes that women should NOT WANT TO BE PRIESTS because Holy Orders is just that -- putting yourself under the authority, the order, of the episcopacy, of the Church. And a liberated woman should never do that. The Holy Father notes the irrefutable logic and consistancy in her view. - Graham Combs Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:08:00 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/ordination-of-women-and-abuses-of-priests.html#comment-6305 Excellent article. Clear explanation and good information. Why this lady left the Church is also interesting. Why leave an institution that contains Bernini, Mozart, Dante, etc.? - Dan Deeny Tue, 15 Mar 2011 06:56:35 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/ordination-of-women-and-abuses-of-priests.html#comment-6303 A fine article, Dr. Arkes, as we have come to expect. You gave us a clue in the first paragraph when you relate that you and this lady both served as readers at the wedding Mass. She could argue that once I am in the sanctuary, it is an easy move to be behind the altar. The Tridentine Mass reflects the Church before it lost Its mind. Only male priests and male acolytes are allowed in the sanctuary. There are no lectors, extraordinary ministers of the Eucharist, permanent deacons, etc. either male or female. Fuzzy rules engender fuzzy thinking. They caused this woman to leave the Church thus putting her soul (and others!) in enormous danger. - Bill Tue, 15 Mar 2011 03:27:13 +0100