Comments for The Protestant Posture at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 8 out of 8 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Tue, 18 Jun 2013 03:36:25 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/the-protestant-posture.html#comment-6327 Wow. This column generated some real thought. I cannot respond to everything. First of all the Church is not going to 'cave' because the Holy Spirit is at the heart of the Church. So nothing will prevail against the Church. Individual human beings will cave and we will be the worse off for it. But the Spirit will prevail. We might have to try harder to be saints in this storm but the Spirit will prevail. - Fr. Bevil Bramwell OMI Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:05:20 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/the-protestant-posture.html#comment-6326 Thanks Father, for this great piece! To Grump: Im pretty sure neither the Church nor B16 will ever cave, its not really in either of their natures. And to you personally Grump, I hope you do become the 'prodigal son', and in the end, find your way back to the Father. I have the bad habit of not praying for other people, I think I'll change that starting with you. - Aeneas Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:02:24 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/the-protestant-posture.html#comment-6325 Fr. Bramwell, thank you for another excellent piece! It brings to mind the damage the imagination has done since the fall (Belloc). Giving certain ideas “importance beyond its value” is at the root of our greatest errors. It is striking the similarities between the university left and the dissenting traditionalists. (I am the biggest fan of tradition, just not dissenting). Both groups find themselves more perceptive, more discerning, more righteous and self assured. Both sides are very high on self esteem possibly even because they find themselves so humble in the face of such obvious material facts. Scott Quinn’s excellent example of false attribution, irrational zeal fueled by self arrogation of interpretative authority is very instructional. Both these groups tell us in no uncertain terms how dangerous knowledge can be when unrecognized idolatry is at the root of our wanting to “know”. The flawed anthropology initiated by Bacon and Machiavelli by such a small degree 400 years ago, as Aristotle tells us, has by small annual growth become a Frankensteinien monster. Ironically, no matter how much love we try to fill this monster with, it is a black hole and will only lead to destruction. The world does not “take the necessary care to identify where they get their premises.” Many have mistaken the zeitgeist for the Holy Spirit, this is truly a tragedy! It is very appealing to be subversive today as we assert our personhood. Obedience is not fashionable today, but as ever, it is what is called for, first to the Logos, then to the truthful order of real things. - Achilles Thu, 17 Mar 2011 07:44:54 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/the-protestant-posture.html#comment-6324 It is difficult to overstate how dire the situation has become in the West. The priest shortage has allowed the dissdents,many who are actually heretics to blackmail thier bishops into keeping them on because there is no one to repalce them with. Fr. Bramwell is quite correct citing the connection to Luther. In fact, we hear today even from the pulpit that Luther was right and that Church would have been better off to have listened to him. We even hear calls for Luther's canonization! Perhaps Pope Benedict XVI is right in saying that we might need to have a samller Church. After all, wouldn't be better for people to drive miles to see a real priest than to walk around the corner to hear both heresies and encougement to support pro-abortion politicians? - Thomas C. Coleman, Jr. Thu, 17 Mar 2011 07:10:51 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/the-protestant-posture.html#comment-6323 The main problem with the spoilers, whether in the seminaries or the corridors of power, is that the bishops rarely take corrective action; and when they do, that action appears to be a day late and a dollar short, further demoralizing those in the Church, both clerical and lay, who seek to live integrally the Church's proclamation of the Good News, which is itself ever more reduced to the status of a cultural artifact rather than the perduring decisive intervention of God in Jesus Christ for the benefit of both humankind and the entire Creation. - Dave Thu, 17 Mar 2011 05:39:52 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/the-protestant-posture.html#comment-6322 Benedict would do well not to "play defense" against the German poseurs who are merely channeling Luther. You all know where I stand as a doubter, but the beauty of the Catholic Church is its resistance to modernity and all that goes with it. If the Church ever caves then it will lose a potential prodigal son in me. - Grump Thu, 17 Mar 2011 05:23:58 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/the-protestant-posture.html#comment-6320 Prof. Hadley Arkes offered in a recent post the idea of looking at a question from a different perspective. God manifested himself as a man; He chose a woman to be his Mother. It seems a natural human tendency to undervalue the gifts one has been given and to exaggerate the gifts others have received. How much more blessed and holy it would be to reflect on the inner beauty of womanhood and its special, precious, divinely-given gifts. - Ars Artium Thu, 17 Mar 2011 03:51:37 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/the-protestant-posture.html#comment-6318 A postscript. See the photo inserted above. Remember that TWO CARDINALS assisted in Mr. Kennedy's funeral: Cdl. O'Malley assisted at his funeral in Mass., while Cdl. McCarrick led the graveside prayers at Arlington Cemetery. What message does that send to the world? Enough said. - Bill Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:03:01 +0100