Comments for The Penance Now Required at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 7 out of 7 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Sun, 19 May 2013 14:26:07 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/the-penance-now-required.html#comment-6561 @Lou: One of the many places where this is mentioned is Crusade of Fatima by Fr. John De Marchi, p. 159. - Howard Kainz Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:38:44 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/the-penance-now-required.html#comment-6559 I have never heard of a 1945 apparition. When and where did this happen? Source? Thanks- - Lou Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:17:09 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/the-penance-now-required.html#comment-6542 Howard: Thank you for your reply. If Our Lady did not reveal this "diabolical disorientation" to Lucia, who did? Would you suggest this humble Carmelite authored that statement herself? The whole purpose of the apparitions and Lucia's role as seer was to provide the REMEDY to this now obvious disorientation. When Our Lady stated in 1917 that if people didn't convert their lives "there will be a war worse than this one" no one believed her. Almost everyone believed her in 1945. - Bill Wed, 13 Apr 2011 12:38:56 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/the-penance-now-required.html#comment-6540 Mr. Kainz, thank you so much for a beautiful article! I agree wtih Ars! Pax Christi vobiscum - Achilles Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:09:48 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/the-penance-now-required.html#comment-6539 @Bill: Sr. Lucia in some of her letters spoke of a "diabolical disorientation," but I don't recall that Our Lady of Fatima said this to her. Besides, we don't need a special revelation to know about this disorientation. - Howard Kainz Wed, 13 Apr 2011 07:01:08 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/the-penance-now-required.html#comment-6538 Our Lady at Fatima called for MORE people to amend their lives, for them to convert, and the way we were to assist in this effort was through PRAYER (You have seen HELL where poor souls go WHO HAVE NO ONE TO PRAY FOR THEM), including the Rosary. She stated that if this did NOT occur there would be another war (WW II) and Russia would spread her errors throughout the world. Years later she appeared to Sr. Lucia and said that since her warnings had not been heeded, a "diabolical disorientation" would overcome the Church and great errors would prevail, and many souls would be lost. Is this not what we have been living through for the last fifty years? That, Mr. Kainz, is an essay on what a serious Catholic must accomplish during Lent. - Bill Wed, 13 Apr 2011 05:34:26 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/the-penance-now-required.html#comment-6537 This reminds me of Pascal's observation that "Men despise religion. They hate it and are afraid that it is true." This article, being true, was rather painful to read; an "astringent ointment" for human weakness. - Ars Artium Wed, 13 Apr 2011 04:43:09 +0100