Comments for Surprise: The Reformation Happened! at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 11 out of 11 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Sat, 18 May 2013 22:45:10 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/surprise-the-reformation-happened.html#comment-7598 Bruce comments that baptism is not explicit in the NT. But neither is baptism for Christians. Only for Jews and Pagams. - Bob Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:08:36 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/surprise-the-reformation-happened.html#comment-7567 Sorry to get to this so late, Frank, so I don't know if you'll see it. But in case you do, the book you cite says "that the early Reformers did not reject what we have called the 'Petrine function...'". Can you give me a brief idea of what that function would be? - William Luse Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:35:09 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/surprise-the-reformation-happened.html#comment-7509 As a member of the Wisconsin Lutheran Synod, I appreciate your article. I think that Mr. Green is reflective of a line I once heard from an orthodox Jewish Rabbi. "Tolerance is a term used by people with no beliefs and reserved for people with no beliefs." Unfortunately, with so much relativism pervading our society, it is no wonder that there are those like Mr. Green who are shocked when they discover that there are still people who believe in right and wrong. It is sad that Mr. Green does not appear to know any who do. - Mike Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:56:27 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/surprise-the-reformation-happened.html#comment-7483 Bruce: What you say is not inconsistent with what I wrote. For example, if a person baptized as an infant in a Presbyterian Church were to become a member of a Baptist Church, he would not be rejected as a candidate for baptism if he requested it. Am I correct? If so, then Baptists do not accept infant baptism as a legitimate baptism. For if they did, then they would tell the person requesting the baptism, "It is unnecessary, you've already been baptized." The Catholic Church, by the way, accepts Protestant baptisms as legitimate, infant or otherwise. - Francis J. Beckwith Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:32:00 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/surprise-the-reformation-happened.html#comment-7482 Indeed, religions and their denominations differ in many respects, and a good deal of print and exhortations have been expended in explaining and supporting any number of theological predications. While it is well and good to approach such questions with the gimlet eye of an ecclesiastical man of the law, for the entertainment and edification of those belonging to the guild, it is revolting to observe the author pretending that black is white. Either the pope is the anti-christ, or he is not. - varados Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:20:48 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/surprise-the-reformation-happened.html#comment-7478 ** Not surprisingly, Baptists do not accept infant baptisms as legitimate. ** That's not entirely accurate. Baptists do not accept that infant baptisms are the same as "Believer's baptisms." The Presbyterians, for example, baptize infants, but their baptism is simply a welcoming of the infant into the Covenant family. Their baptism is not stating that the infant is, or will even become, a believer (simply that the child will be raised in a Covenant environment). As a Baptist, I believe the Presbyterian baptism is legitimate insofar as its stated purpose (Baptists have a similar practice called: baby dedication -- but absent administration of water). But since Baptists believe the Bible explicitly demonstrates Baptism only *after* conversion, that one should be a Believer before they are administered "Believer's Baptism" (infant baptism must be "implicitly assumed" as no NT passage *explicitly* demonstrates its occurrence). Therefore, Baptists would (again) baptize someone who had previously experienced some form of baptism before they professed faith in Christ. Although we differ on the administration of baptism, Baptists would absolutely affirm that Presbyterians (at least the PCA and EPC) were brothers and sisters in Christ. - Bruce427 Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:46:47 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/surprise-the-reformation-happened.html#comment-7474 From a life-long Bible Belt Catholic--I'm shocked, shocked to find Lutheranism going on here. - Charlotte Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:08:58 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/surprise-the-reformation-happened.html#comment-7471 Francis: Nice job as usual! - Steve Ray Fri, 22 Jul 2011 05:44:34 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/surprise-the-reformation-happened.html#comment-7469 Sadly, the Atlantic Monthly seems to be slipping away from it's tradionally high standard of journalism. I cancelled my subscription about three years ago. Send them a message, cancel yours too if you have one. - Yezhov Fri, 22 Jul 2011 04:52:25 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/surprise-the-reformation-happened.html#comment-7467 Question for the mainstream media: Why is Rep. Bachmann's former church's unpalatable teachings relevant, but Pres. Obama's long association with a Rev. Wright not? - Mark Fri, 22 Jul 2011 04:21:53 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/surprise-the-reformation-happened.html#comment-7464 Nice piece Mr.Beckwith! Green is just trying to get people to read his tripe, that and scare off potential Bachmann votes. Best line of Beckwith's article: "Luther was, to employ a popular neologism, unfriended" I burst out laughing at that part! - Aeneas Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:39:47 +0100