Comments for Beyond the Dictatorship of Relativism at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 14 out of 14 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Fri, 24 May 2013 02:02:29 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/beyond-the-dictatorship-of-relativism.html#comment-7548 A very enlightening article and distinction between forces at work in our society. Thank you much! Just when we are becoming experts on relativism, its causes and effects, we see (you see) it morphing into beliefs, faith and the teachings that naturally follow. Much to ponder; thanks for the heads-up. - Jim Flynn Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:59:17 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/beyond-the-dictatorship-of-relativism.html#comment-7505 Relativism. Something I passionately hate. I even blog about it! Aristotle (or some philosopher) said something like having homosexual tendencies is no different then being anger-prone or susceptible to alcohol. If acted upon, or encouraged, the desire takes over the will. I think that explanation explains a lot. (Mixture of being born with a tendency + environment, etc) - Rsharrak Tue, 26 Jul 2011 07:28:08 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/beyond-the-dictatorship-of-relativism.html#comment-7501 I continue to remain puzzled by all of this "born with it" talk. My Catholic Faith tells me I am BORN, in fact CONCEIVED, with Original Sin. After all "a sinner was I conceived" the Psalmist says. So at the end of the day who cares whether it is nurture or nature - to engage in the act is WRONG no matter its cause. - Matthew Tue, 26 Jul 2011 04:35:28 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/beyond-the-dictatorship-of-relativism.html#comment-7497 Very good. The war is being waged in ernest now. - Linus Mon, 25 Jul 2011 18:19:32 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/beyond-the-dictatorship-of-relativism.html#comment-7495 I have been told repeatedly by students at our local state university that sex/gender questions need to be 'fixed'. If there really are 23 genders, as proposed by a recent article...(Enter the Australian Human Rights Commission with some exciting new developments. In an extraordinary document entitled Protection from discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and sex and/or gender identity, the AHRC has come up with a further list of “genders” which they require us to recognize, and on whose behalf they want our federal government to pass anti-discrimination legislation. To date (by the time you read this, the AHRC’s family of sexualities may have increased and multiplied) these are: transgender, trans, transsexual, intersex, androgynous, agender, cross dresser, drag king, drag queen, genderfluid, genderqueer, intergender, neutrois, pansexual, pan-gendered, third gender, third sex, sistergirl and brotherboy. (No, I don’t know what “neutrois” means).) The ultimate result of this is the acceptance of what used to be considered 'sin' as simply 'born this way' behavior. I appreciate this article very much. Relativism is death for faith and culture. Thank God for BXVI!!! - Suzanne Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:28:45 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/beyond-the-dictatorship-of-relativism.html#comment-7494 I have been told repeatedly by students at our local state university that sex/gender questions need to be 'fixed'. If there really are 23 genders, as proposed by a recent article...(Enter the Australian Human Rights Commission with some exciting new developments. In an extraordinary document entitled Protection from discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and sex and/or gender identity, the AHRC has come up with a further list of “genders” which they require us to recognize, and on whose behalf they want our federal government to pass anti-discrimination legislation. To date (by the time you read this, the AHRC’s family of sexualities may have increased and multiplied) these are: transgender, trans, transsexual, intersex, androgynous, agender, cross dresser, drag king, drag queen, genderfluid, genderqueer, intergender, neutrois, pansexual, pan-gendered, third gender, third sex, sistergirl and brotherboy. (No, I don’t know what “neutrois” means).) The ultimate result of this is the acceptance of what used to be considered 'sin' as simply 'born this way' behavior. I appreciate this article very much. Relativism is death for faith and culture. Thank God for BXVI!!! - Suzanne Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:27:20 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/beyond-the-dictatorship-of-relativism.html#comment-7493 Billiant and goent article, Dr. Royal. But here I go again: while you arre right that there is someting more than relativism here, It should be clear that mere realtivism is itself just a ruse for those with abslutist ideology that is leathal even it is ultimately inchoerent. We all know that the attacks on marriage have their roots in Marxism and that the Marxists are using the homosexulas, whom they will they will mercilessly repress in the long run, in order to attack what Marxists hold as the root of all evil, namely the family. Although the Satanic hatred for God given institution and Sacrament of marriage had been under attack since the 18th Century, it was not until the establishment of Communism that this evil had the political, organizational, and educational structure to take contorl of the on ce Christian lands. We are powerless over this evil if we arre too afraid to make the demoan say its name. You say Communists don't matter becuase the Cold War is over? Does anyone really imagine that with the collapse of the Soviet Untion all Communist there and in the US ran off and demanded to be baptized? We all know that those who hate Crhist and the Chruch He faounded on the Rock of Petere are only angrier than beofre and more determined to attack the Bride of Christ. - Thomas C. Coleman, Jr. Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:38:42 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/beyond-the-dictatorship-of-relativism.html#comment-7492 "Brian, he equivocates quite a bit, saying there is "convincing evidence" that links sexual orientation to genetics." As a part of the puzzle, not the only piece of the puzzle. I am not aware of any responsible scientist or researcher who asserts that sexuality is simply determined by a gay gene. This is not a simple issue, which makes it a very poor candidate for serious discussion in our sound-bite world. - Brian English Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:10:34 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/beyond-the-dictatorship-of-relativism.html#comment-7491 There is the question of the amount of estrogen being poured in our environment by the ubiquitous use of oral contraceptives. I believe I have read that the fish in the estuaries are showing a decidedly female bias. "the numbers you cite are correct, but"; "I'm talking about the real true believers," Dr. Royal, the argument that the number (by percentage) of activists for homosexual acceptance is small is really beside the point, isn't it. The same argument is used about the per centage of radical Muslims compared with the total number of Muslims, but that small per centage has managed to do a tremendous amount of harm, e.g., keeping the entire world in a state of terror that has led, in a number of countries, to an inability in that country to defend its heritage and even its very life. it has always been the active few who have made or changed history, for better of for warse. Our Lord started with twelve. Excellent but terrifying essay, however. Now. What can be done to stop it? - Louise Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:11:25 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/beyond-the-dictatorship-of-relativism.html#comment-7490 Brian, he equivocates quite a bit, saying there is "convincing evidence" that links sexual orientation to genetics. http://youtu.be/TEG-EBUU7n8 - Grump Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:48:20 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/beyond-the-dictatorship-of-relativism.html#comment-7489 "The 'born this way' argument is gaining momentum; avowed homosexuals say they were made that way and couldn't change if they wanted to. If this is so, the 'fault and flaws' then lie in the Designer, do they not?" They can say that all they want, but that doesn't make it true. Substituting Lady Ga Ga lyrics for real science is not a serious approach to the issue. The research in this area shows a combination of factors that produce homosexuality. Even the researcher Dr. Dean Hamer, who is gay and would have liked nothing better than to find a gay gene, dismisses the idea that such a thing exists. - Brian English Mon, 25 Jul 2011 05:46:14 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/beyond-the-dictatorship-of-relativism.html#comment-7488 Agree, Robert. However, it seems to be an uphill and losing fight because the mass media is on their side. Further, there is the 'yuck factor' that I, even as a lapsed Catholic, feel when I see 'gays' celebrating. And there is something about their physiognomy that gives them away and is repugnant. Using the watchmaker analogy, how is it that so many defective watches are being created? The 'born this way' argument is gaining momentum; avowed homosexuals say they were made that way and couldn't change if they wanted to. If this is so, the 'fault and flaws' then lie in the Designer, do they not? - Grump Mon, 25 Jul 2011 04:58:29 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/beyond-the-dictatorship-of-relativism.html#comment-7486 Joe, the numbers you cite are correct, but they're mostly measuring people who are willing to allow gay marriage, usually without thinking much about what it means. They take their attitudes from the popular culture. If that culture changed, so would their opinions. I'm talking about the real true believers, the ones who are out there passionately arguing, as if denial of gay marriage has been a fundamental wrong crying for redress by proclaiming new fundamental rights. They are the ones who shape the popular culture through a sympathetic media. And that's why we can't simply take depressing statistics as unchangeable realities and this battle must continue. - Robert Royal Mon, 25 Jul 2011 04:31:57 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/beyond-the-dictatorship-of-relativism.html#comment-7485 A 'small slice', eh? According to the latest survey conducted by Harris Interactive, more than half (53%) of all U.S. adults agreed that regardless of their own personal views, "a same-sex marriage legally granted in one state should be recognized as a legal marriage in all other states in the same way generally that heterosexual marriages are recognized across state lines." Just as significantly, 49% of all U.S. adults say they "support the right for same-sex couples to marry," when contrasted with 41% who oppose the right, and 10% who are not at all sure. Last week, President Obama endorsed repeal of the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, arguing that it is unconstitutional to deny same-sex marriages equal recognition by the federal government or for the federal government to stand in the way of any state that chooses to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other jurisdictions. (Today marriage equality for same-sex couples is the law in six states as well as Washington, D.C.) A new national poll released today suggests that more than half of all Americans support the White House position. ====================================================== If these numbers are believable, it's only a matter of time before a so-called gay marriage is federalized. - Grump Mon, 25 Jul 2011 04:19:39 +0100