Comments for Karol Wojtła: Bishop at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 6 out of 6 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Tue, 21 May 2013 11:04:21 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/karol-wojta-bishop.html#comment-8835 Fr. Bramwell, I am sorry I was being facetious. I was joking about making Manfred the Pope because he has had some pretty condemning words for John Paul II. It was uncharitable of me. My comment made little sense and was especially inappropriate because your articles are always honest and edifying. Please forgive me and keep up the excellent work. You are one of my favorite writers on here and that is saying something with all the wonderful contributors. Blessings, Achilles - Achilles Thu, 10 Nov 2011 03:25:42 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/karol-wojta-bishop.html#comment-8833 I am not sure what you mean by "vote"? I am speaking of an historian being the one who can best describe Wojtyla's pontificate. Historians get the complexities often better than untrained people. They work out plausible chains of causation, for example. - Fr. Bramwell Wed, 09 Nov 2011 16:33:43 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/karol-wojta-bishop.html#comment-8814 Fr. Bramwell, thankyou for the beautiful essay. You have found your professional historian, more Catholic than the Great Pope himself and able to reduce the entire pontificate to a few traditional catch phrases. I don't see it, but I guess we will just have to take it on faith that this professional historian does know everything. How do we vote this guy in? - Achilles Mon, 07 Nov 2011 17:04:05 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/karol-wojta-bishop.html#comment-8813 I focused the column on his episcopate because there are some great themes there. The history of the pontificate is a whole different story because it is so much more complicated because he works through the curia. This is the material for a professional historian who has done all the research. - Fr. Bramwell Mon, 07 Nov 2011 14:40:23 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/karol-wojta-bishop.html#comment-8804 Thank you, Fr. Bramwell, for this excellent article. What stands out to me, again, is Wojtla's academic prowess. Perhaps as Pope Benedict XVI continues the correct implementation of the Council, we may hope and pray that he will appoint more great intellectuals to the archiepiscopacies; though with George in Chicago, Gomez in Los Angeles, and Chaput in Philadelphia, things are looking up. And let us remember Cardinal Wuerl, too, whose devotion to the New Evangelization and to the Sacrament of Confession is changing Catholic culture in Washington and beyond. - Dave Sun, 06 Nov 2011 03:27:09 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/karol-wojta-bishop.html#comment-8803 I too have read Mr. Weigel's pieces on JP II and I think history is going to be much harsher on this pope than many believe. JP II became pope in 1978 at the death of JPI, but it became clear to many, including Cdl Law, that so much novelty had been introduced into all aspects of the Church by the Pope and others , that a Catechism had to be prepared so that the hierarchy, priests and laity would know what Catholicism taught! The Catechism of the Catholic Church was finished in 1992. The last time a catechism had to be prepared was at the time of the Reformation (the Roman Catechism from which came the Baltimore Catechism)for the same reason: WHAT DOES THE CATHOLIC CHURCH REALLY TEACH? The second major cleanup, especially after Assisi and In Nostra Aetate, was DOMINUS JESUS which was written by Cdl Ratzinger as Prefect of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith under JP II in 2000. The nonsense which taught that the Jewish Covenant still obtained and they did not have to convert in order to be saved, that Protestants had churches which implied a continuity with Catholicism (they have "ecclesial communities")all had to be corrected. The uproar whih followed the release of that document was enormous. Catholics and non-Catholics had really believed all the pap they had been told for the previous forty years. And BTW, it was Ratzinger who warned the pope about Fr. Maciel and who removed him just before JP II died. Take my word for it: If you truly believe your destiny is to save your soul, and you have the choice of JP II and Benedict, I would choose Benedict, while he is not perfect, hands down. - Manfred Sun, 06 Nov 2011 02:12:58 +0100