Comments for Election Daze at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 4 out of 4 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Wed, 22 May 2013 17:02:51 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/election-daze.html#comment-8826 The 2012 election will be about saving the republic, if it is not already too late. We are on the verge of losing our national sovereignty to the international corporations and banks. Contrary to the naivety of the recent Vatican document, the people running these organizations are nothing but scoundrels and crooks. The UN, in whom many place their hope of regulation, is just as corrupt, think oil for food scandal, and dependent on the international corporate and banking revenue stream. The coming 2012 election is about much more than the pro-life cause, it is about liberty from tyranny. Without that, little else matters. Electing an establishment man this time around will be national suicide. - Blake Helgoth Wed, 09 Nov 2011 03:33:54 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/election-daze.html#comment-8810 Well written, well thought out article, Brad. How Catholics voted for BHO 55/45 in 2008 astounds me...even today. BHO's anti-Cathoic thinking and record was well established prior to 2008. Did not Catholics recognize this...did they and their national and regional/local leadership not care? Let's hope there is an awakening among Catholic voters in November 2012. They could well make the difference between four more years of secular- driven destruction of our culture or, leadership built upon re-discovery and reliance upon our shared Judeo-Christian values...values that have served our country well since its founding. - Seanachie Mon, 07 Nov 2011 08:55:17 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/election-daze.html#comment-8808 Thanks very much for this piece, Mr. Miner. One could not rightly expect the bishops to give clear guidance on these political matters, for their own thinking is deeply conflicted. The clergy, especially the senior clergy, vote overwhelmingly Democrat. They are not likely, so late in life, to enunciate moral principles that would entail a turning away from the Party they have so faithfully supported throughout their lives. I suspect the guidance will go unread in any event. Those who have looked at "Faithful Citizenship" see in it the pablum and nostrums you have rightly pointed out. Conservative Catholics won't much care, because the USCCB and its predecessor institutions have been so reliably, utterly, predictably liberal; and liberal Democrats won't care because of the reasons you enunciate in your last paragraph. In addition, the bishops still really haven't come to grips with the loss of moral authority and prestige they suffered due to the priestly scandals knowledge of which broke out at the beginning of the last decade. Having instituted the safeguards, the commissions, etc. they believe the problem is solved and it's back to business as usual. But there is no going back. The bishops will have to regain the prestige and authority they lost, and the only way to do so is to stand with the Pope and like the Pope, whose address to the Bundestag ought to go down in the annals of both Catholic thought and political speech. Cardinal George and Archbishop Chaput stand out as bright spots, sort of, but only sort of. Our bishops have finally realized that the water they've been swimming in has become quite hot indeed; and so I think we need to support them, pray for them, mortify ourselves for them. Archbishop Dolan's letter to President Obama and Bishop Lori's testimony to Congress do lay out the issues clearly, even if a bit weakly. The only way our bishops will recover their moral authority is if faithful laity back them to the hilt whenever they hit the issue square on the head. Thank you for a thoughtful and thought-provoking piece. - Dave Mon, 07 Nov 2011 04:33:38 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2011/election-daze.html#comment-8807 This time it may very well be different. There has been a lot of teaching and soul searching going on in the last three years. President Obama has done us a favor by showing what a genuine "progressive", with few political or moral restraints, can do to this nation in short order. Many have looked into the abyss and don't like the view. They will vote against the programs offered by the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. This battle will more than likely be won - the war is a different story because it is a war of the ages. The teaching must go on. Keep up the good work, Mr Miner - Ray Hunkins Mon, 07 Nov 2011 04:25:56 +0100