Comments for The Unexpected Fruit of Dissent at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 7 out of 7 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Thu, 23 May 2013 16:56:20 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2008/the-unexpected-fruit-of-dissent.html#comment-359 For the Fellowship of Catholic Scholars, I thank God. They shine a light in the darkness of ignorance wrought by the radicals. - Michael Doyle Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:14:27 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2008/the-unexpected-fruit-of-dissent.html#comment-58 At this point I think we are arguing semantics however you admit that it is "some' followers, not all", but then go on to say that nothing Mr. Saunders said would be rejected by any follower of the Reformed tradition. But anyway, I think we can agree that what he said was a bit stereotypical, yet that stereotype is based on a particular truth, namely some or many followers of Calvin reject the notion of freedom. Should he have added "some" is a question I think distracts from the message. - TommyMagnus Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:49:33 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2008/the-unexpected-fruit-of-dissent.html#comment-51 Tommy, that's a good point. But I would point out that it is "some" followers, not all. And there is no contradiction between God\'s sovereignty and foreordaining, and human freedom and responsibility. But it is certainly a mystery. I would say Mr. Saunders statement is simplistic, and really unnecessary. I see nothing in those first three paragraphs that any follower of the Reformed tradition would not embrace, except the implication that we don't believe in freedom or responsibility. - Mike D\\\'Virgilio Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:56:22 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2008/the-unexpected-fruit-of-dissent.html#comment-49 Mike: Mr. Saunders said, \"Unlike followers of John Calvin...\". And so you probably both agree that \"While Calvin often takes the hit, his followers often took his teaching where he would never have taken it.\" - TommyMagnus Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:09:54 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2008/the-unexpected-fruit-of-dissent.html#comment-47 As a somewhat follower of Calvin, and one who read the Institutes cover to cover, you mischaracterize his thought. God's foreordaining does not destroy the reality of human freedom. Calvin well understood the mystery of truths, seemingly contradictory, that we cannot fully understand. While Calvin often takes the hit, his followers often took his teaching where he would never have taken it. - Mike D\\\'Virgilio Sun, 05 Oct 2008 13:45:15 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2008/the-unexpected-fruit-of-dissent.html#comment-48 Dear Dr. Saunders: What are the requirements for joing FCS? Can one not eligible for formal member ship contribute/interact in some way? My academic position is in language education rather than theology. I graduated from Loyola Marymount U. in \'71, seeing the last days of orthodoxy give way to insidious relativism. My current thelogical study is indepedent and orthodox/traditionalist. Please tell me how I can help and how I can be connected with FCS? Thomas C. Coleman, Jr. - Thomas C. Coleman, Jr. Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:15:54 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2008/the-unexpected-fruit-of-dissent.html#comment-46 Many thanks for this reminder of the FCS and all the good its members have accomplished in the last 30 years. - Marc Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:12:46 +0100