Comments for The Making of Cardinal O’Brien at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 7 out of 7 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Tue, 21 May 2013 23:52:40 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-making-of-cardinal-obrien.html#comment-9855 Uniformed interlopers ALL questioning the wisdom of the Holy Father's (& his predecessors) shrewd judgement re his heretofore appointments while appointed to serve within the role of The Vicar of Christ here on earth (i.e. The Primary Shepherd of The Church is not as niave as you may think). - Mr. Jamesy Mac Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:02:51 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-making-of-cardinal-obrien.html#comment-9619 "pulling the "pallium" over Rome's eyes " I have to remember that phrase. Maybe it's the money or the human element of the Church that causes her to look away from what happens on Madison Avenue. In any event, Dolan is probably the best shepherd NY has had since Cardinal Hayes. Unfortunately, that isn't saying much but you can't expect this environment to breed men like a Ratzinger. I am happy to see O'Brien isn't forced into running an American diocese. - Michael Kelley Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:04:58 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-making-of-cardinal-obrien.html#comment-9600 Jack: I agree, NY have been pulling the "pallium" over Rome's eyes for years. But, while a chuckling politician may be perfect, O'Brien is of a much higher caliber and obviously known to be too good. His appointment last Summer proves that even Rome is aware of this. - Mary Taylor Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:39:14 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-making-of-cardinal-obrien.html#comment-9597 The Sees of the East Coast share much with the dying Metropolitan Sees of W. Europe. To wit, their prestige is based on hopes of the past. In the case of the US, they were never realised. Blame it on Americanism in the 19th Century and the Potomac flowing into the tiber in the 20th. It will come as no surprise that Rome has put in charge of those prestigious dioceses men from the Midwest and not the East Coast. Only time will tell if the strategy will be successful. If not, New York may one day be a titular see going to an orthodox African bishop. - Idaho Joe Sun, 22 Jan 2012 09:31:22 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-making-of-cardinal-obrien.html#comment-9502 Alecto: I feel your pain. But His Excellency's behaviour is par for the course in the NY Church. I suggest you read Rite of Sodomy by R. Engel for more on how the NY Archdiocese has a history of pulling the wool over Rome's eyes. I don't think O'Brien can be lumped in here and I'm glad to see you didn't. - Jack Amadan Fri, 13 Jan 2012 10:08:22 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-making-of-cardinal-obrien.html#comment-9485 Cardinal O'Brien is certainly deserving of this honor, but I cannot agree that Dolan is. Despite the author's complimentary description of Dolan, he has insulted and alienated many faithful Catholics who also happen to be faithful American citizens with his lobbying on behalf of law-breaking criminals. He even went so far as to make the outrageous statement that anyone who disagrees with wholesale amnesty for illegal aliens is a KKK sympathizer. For these types of intemperate comments, was he disciplined? No! He was rewarded. Good luck getting me into a den of iniquity otherwise known as a Catholic church after the constant abuse of the Catholic hierarchy led by Dolan. Good luck with those Mexicans, too, Dolan. I hear most of them leave within the first generation for more "flexible" Protestant denominations. In addition, his actions prior the New York legislature's vote on gay marriage are suspect. He elected to attend a USCCB conference instead of visiting the state house in Albany to persuade legislators or attempt to prevent this perverted redefinition of marriage? And what words did he have for the Catholics in the legislature who voted in favor of passage? None. He assured them he wanted to keep the friendly "dialogue" going. What courage, that! He may fool Rome, but he doesn't fool the rest of us. He's a coward, plain and simple. Nothing in his actions or his positions demonstrate he possesses the kind of character which, when called upon, will defend the Faith to the death. - Alecto Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:17:27 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-making-of-cardinal-obrien.html#comment-9483 Archbishop Edwin O'Brien is an impressive man. - Mark Kirby Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:48:37 +0100