Comments for John Paul II: Living Symbol of Culture at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 5 out of 5 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:37:43 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/john-paul-ii-living-symbol-of-culture.html#comment-9523 Michael Wiltz, count on our prayers and best wishes. May you find a way to Lourdes. - Dave Sun, 15 Jan 2012 13:35:11 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/john-paul-ii-living-symbol-of-culture.html#comment-9522 Fr. Bramwell, thank you once again for a beautiful article. I particularly appreciate the quotation from Bl. John Paul II that we do not live in an irrational or meaningless world. The point is so important because so often it seems we do. Our Holy Father Pope Benedict XVI picks up something of this line of thought in his presentation of Christ as the Logos of God. The "grammar" of human existence reminds me of Bl. John Henry Newman, but it also recalls, perhaps strangely to some, the work of Paul Holmes and others at Yale (including George Lindbeck), who were working, if I may put it this way, on the intelligibility of a grammar of faith that could serve as a basis for ecumenical dialogue (using Wittgenstein rather than Aristotle or the Angelic Doctor as their philosophical starting point). Of course the Council documents are clear that the fullness of Christ's Church subsists in the Catholic Church, and in her alone. By heeding her message and shouldering the responsibilities of culture we do fulfill Havel's wish: but supremely we fulfill Christ's, who came that we might have abundant life. This takes us light years past the Rotarians, whom we wish well as who could be opposed to such a platform and because it is propaedeutic to the fullness of Divine Revelation. - Dave Sun, 15 Jan 2012 13:34:35 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/john-paul-ii-living-symbol-of-culture.html#comment-9521 I, Michael Wiltz, ask for Healing Please. Heal my Mouth, my Hands, my Body, my Spleen, the Myelofibrosis. Make me whole again. - Michael Wiltz Sun, 15 Jan 2012 08:49:51 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/john-paul-ii-living-symbol-of-culture.html#comment-9520 Hi Manfred I must be missing something. As far as John Paul II is concerned - that he can be misunderstood is always possible. I am not sure where to go beyond that. Then regarding your friends - they don't understand Vatican II. To respond to the specific point that you then make, I would suggest reading Dominus Iesus which explains Vatican II's teaching in detail on this point. - Fr. Bramwell Sun, 15 Jan 2012 07:53:15 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/john-paul-ii-living-symbol-of-culture.html#comment-9519 @Fr. Bramwell: May I inject here the Rotary Four Way Test? 1. Is it the truth? 2. Is it fair to all concerned? 3. Will it bring good will and better friendship? 4. Will it be beneficial to all concerned? Could not a Rotarian be a "messenger of fraternal unity in diversity."? The motto of Rotary is: Service above Self. Thank you for your patience but my point is Rotary is anthropocentric and not theocentric, nor should it be as a secular club. Unfortunately, some of the criticism of JP II is that some of his writings [Christ has a relationship with every man (instead of humanity)] seem anthropocentric and the wrong message results. I have had non-Catholic friends and clients insist that Vat II has recognized that all Christian faiths are different traditions while remaining in the same church. I write this in an attempt to avoid confusion. Thank you. - Manfred Sat, 14 Jan 2012 19:43:19 +0100