Comments for Obama’s Obliviousness at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 9 out of 9 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Sat, 25 May 2013 03:00:32 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/obamas-obliviousness.html#comment-9872 Peter, somehow our program will not accept a superscript. It's simple algebra, of course, that it's x squared that can equal either +2 or -2. We're working with our tech people to fix this limitation. Thanks for pointing out the problem. - Robert Royal Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:42:22 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/obamas-obliviousness.html#comment-9870 Perhaps you meant x^2=4 - Peter Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:52:17 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/obamas-obliviousness.html#comment-9869 Great article, however a tiny point of clarification: x2=4 has one and only one answer. - Peter Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:51:07 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/obamas-obliviousness.html#comment-9805 If the Church in the US ever wakes up, we would be forced to admit to Christ that we have failed Him in fighting the spiritual war that He demands of us. As we have been reminded here at CT over the past few months...Jesus expects the Church to be "on offense." There is a fundamental rule of warfare in Tsun Tsu: "If you are too weak to defend - you must attack." Of course, spiritual war has a price...it means empty chairs at the Al Smith Dinner; no Medals of Freedom for Presidents of Catholic colleges; no electronic transfer payments from the Federal Govenment. - Chris in Maryland Mon, 06 Feb 2012 07:40:08 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/obamas-obliviousness.html#comment-9804 "Truly religious people, if there are any of them young enough in this country, need to cloister together if they're going to survive. The arrogance of thinking that we're fanning out to reconvert the secular masses is going to kill the Church in this country." This option is not open to us. We would no longer be the Church Christ founded if we did this. "Most older Catholics don't really seem to mind though. They're too busy gossiping with each other to worry about the fact that there are no children over 12 years old and no young adults in church on Sundays." You need to find a new parish. I see plenty of both at mine. - Brian English Mon, 06 Feb 2012 06:37:29 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/obamas-obliviousness.html#comment-9803 An interesting and learned article. But just a minute, this program is being put forward by a Catholic. Why write about Obama all the time? Why not Sebelius? - Dan Deeny Mon, 06 Feb 2012 06:03:24 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/obamas-obliviousness.html#comment-9800 Do you think Christ would want us to give our support to a country that works to destroy the Church? I always wonder why religious groups in this country are so cooperative with the beaurucrats who are gunning for their extinction. Truly religious people, if there are any of them young enough in this country, need to cloister together if they're going to survive. The arrogance of thinking that we're fanning out to reconvert the secular masses is going to kill the Church in this country. Most older Catholics don't really seem to mind though. They're too busy gossiping with each other to worry about the fact that there are no children over 12 years old and no young adults in church on Sundays. - Jacob R Mon, 06 Feb 2012 04:02:45 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/obamas-obliviousness.html#comment-9799 Michael I agree with you, but with a qualification. The point of the Plato comparison is that there are two dimensions of the truth. But there is an asymmetrical relationship between them. You can see this in those who lean to one side or the other. The believer can admit the claims of a secular realm that is not closed off to the divine (a nation "under God"). The seculars do not return the favor.Similarly, a believer can see the claims of science while putting them in a larger context. Regrettably, the scientists often don't see the other use of reason. It's tricky, but we do better when we follow Christ and Render unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar, but no more, which can also protect the things that belong to God. We've had a long tradition of this dual vision in Catholicism going back to the ancient world. That's being threatened now by an imperial secular state that's assuming elements of the divine. - Robert Royal Mon, 06 Feb 2012 03:36:24 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/obamas-obliviousness.html#comment-9798 I could not disagree more Religion is comprehensively, inclusively pertinent to the human condition. The neutral, secular state is an illusion for, such is human nature, it invariably becomes the ethical state. The notion that religion can somehow be protected by separating “religious society” and “political society,” each autonomous, is to accept that the state can be self-sufficient in the sense that it can be properly independent of any specifically Christian sense of justice and to collude, by implication in the liberal privatisation of Christian faith As Maurice Blondel reminded us in a similar debate, 100 years ago, “It is only in the spirit of the Gospel that we find the supreme and decisive guarantee of justice and of the moral conditions of peace, stability, and social prosperity." - Michael Paterson-Seymour Sun, 05 Feb 2012 23:01:14 +0100