Comments for Where’s the Outrage? at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 23 out of 20 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Thu, 20 Jun 2013 02:41:54 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-11008 Scott W. Thank you for you comment. You must not hold the Catholic Journal accountable for my ignorance, please forgive me. Gian, again, I agree with you completely on this point! - Achilles Mon, 23 Apr 2012 20:59:53 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-11005 Scott W, I thought that homosexual act was per se against Natural Law. Could you elaborate where does promiscuity come into play? Indeed, I think that the outrage in this article is misplaced. That homosexuals are promiscuous and engage in restroom sex is not as much an outrage as the acceptance and normalization of gay relationships as Family in the City. - Gian Mon, 23 Apr 2012 18:40:54 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-11003 Catholic, Homosexual men are far more promiscuous than heterosexual men (read Masters & Johnson, etc), that is a crucial piece of evidence in the natural law argument against homosexuality. Achilles, If a person is knowingly and persistently defying God's will, they they will make precious little headway in the spiritual life, and will never become sanctified. So remaining in a monogamous homosexual relationship does substantially cut you off from the life of grace. I can't believe I just had to state that "for the record" in a Catholic journal... - Scott W Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:35:31 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-11000 Dear Homosexual Catholic, Certainly it is possible to grow in faith hope and love when involved in a homosexual relationship in the same way a drug addict or an alcoholic can grow in these areas by the grace of God. However, in the words of Jesus, after He forgives us He says “go and sin no more.” There is nothing about getting involved with homosexual people or getting to know them better that can change what sinful behavior is. I have never heard any “mott huddlestons” from the gay community. I do know gay couples that live together in an apparent committed relationship, but how would this differ from a committed couple living together that does not have a valid marriage? Very little outside the incongruity of parts. You are certainly right, there are many heterosexuals that are promiscuous and as Catholics we have no choice but to recognize that reckless and immoral behavior for what it is, sinful. Gian said something that we can almost all agree on, that the greater evil would be to accept a homosexual union as unsinful weather it is in a committed relationship or not. It cannot happen in the Catholic Church. In short, you are trying to confuse categories, that of sympathy with that of Truth. We in the Catholic Church see all “homosexuals” as Humans and recognize that “homosexual” is not what you are, but what you choose to do. We are not the sex acts we choose to commit, we are human souls made in the image of God with His law written on our hearts. We can no more change that law than we can stop breathing and still live. Best wishes, Achilles - Achilles Mon, 23 Apr 2012 07:17:20 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-10996 Having anonymous sex is not really flaunting it. That would be a stable monogamous relationship. So from the society's point of view, promiscuity is not the greatest evil. That would be the existence and acceptance of monogamous committed gays. - Gian Sun, 22 Apr 2012 22:03:58 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-10989 As a homosexual Catholic, I can say that the author of this article is mistaken. There are Mott Huddlestons out there, and there are just as many heterosexual people who engage in rampant promiscuity as there are homosexual people. It is unfortunate that so much judgment is being passed, because the reality is that Catholicism is about fostering growth in faith, hope, and love. It is my experience that growth in these areas is entirely possible within homosexual relationships. You must, however, be willing to step off of your moral high ground and interact with homosexual people in order to discover this. It is ignorance coming from the unwillingness to do this that results in articles like this. - Catholic Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:28:25 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-10986 Will Manley, we all love the sinners - but must oppose the actions of the treacherous sinners. These are the deliberate attempts of certain (many) homosexuals to subvert the family, giving over our society to the repro-crats. These homosexuals deploy sarcasm as a weapon, and must be willing to take it back again. - Sue Sun, 22 Apr 2012 03:11:24 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-10983 Mr. Manley, glad to hear you hate this behavior, too. - Austin Ruse Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:53:51 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-10982 Mr. Ruse...hate the sin; love and pray for the sinner. It's the Catholic thing. - will manley Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:35:24 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-10979 Yes, Mr. Manley, and instead of answering any question, you go on the attack. How about answering my question? You cannot muster any outrage or judgement against men having sex in public places with hudnreds of partners? You cannot judge this at all? Answer that...or go on the attack. Your call. - Austin Ruse Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:10:45 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-10976 grady, I find your comment laughable in that you make a number of assumptions about me that are completely false. Instead of addressing the meaning of my comment you have responded with a personal attack that is completely baseless. I thought trolling was not allowed on this site. I expected better of the administrators especially since they purport to encourage civil dialog. - will manley Sat, 21 Apr 2012 06:37:33 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-10975 There was a time when sex had a narrower definition that enjoined an act with procreation. Homosexual sex does not create for the potential of offspring. So I ask this question. Is homosexual "sex" actually sex or is it consensual masterbation? - Frank Fri, 20 Apr 2012 20:03:04 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-10973 I am heterosexual and would never condone the concept of anonymous sex. I do find it interesting that all of this outrage is about men having sex with men. Once again, the church seems to have overlooked the viewpoint of women, straight or gay. - A Woman's Opinion Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:14:49 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-10972 I bet manley can find outrage over greedy men that make more than their fair share of money, or those that oppose "illegal" immigration, or those that oppose higher taxes to give to those that want it etc. The liberal's compassion is always directed to some very specific sins; sexual perversion and abortion. - Grady Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:41:30 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-10971 Bravo, Austin! What a marvelously imaginative way to show the heart of the homosexual disorder. - Bob Reilly Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:02:13 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-10970 Mr. Manley, you cannot muster any outrage over someone having sex with hundreds of partners in public? You cannot judge such behavior as being not only wrong but harmful and even disgusting? Really? Truly? - Austin Ruse Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:06:33 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-10969 Interesting article. It used to be thought homosexuals didn't even want to be married, though. It was even more recently that we realized that homosexuals wanted children to care for, notwithstanding their sterile couplings. (E. Michael Jones points out that John Maynard Keynes, the homosexual economist whose "In the long run, we're all dead" reflected his lack of concern with posterity in more ways than one.) The way-stops on the slippery slope included the privacy of the bedroom, then don't ask don't tell, then it was civil unions, now it's marriage. The endgame is to get these sterile couples government-issue children, then the redesign of marriage and the family will be complete. Artificial reproduction is the Iwo Jima of the culture war. Once the technocrats are able able to command and control human reproduction like a Monsanto garden (plant only government sanctioned organisms and weed-spray the rest), there'll be no distinction between us and Brave New World. Homosexuals and the useful idiot ivf consumers are the vanguard. What a long road we have traveled from the word "matrimony" ("mothermaking") to the test tube. Thank God for the Church's vital witness to the truth. - Sue Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:01:23 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-10968 Individuals deserve our understanding and prayers. One cannot see into another's heart. However, behavior must be judged if civilization is to be preserved. For too long now we have been asked to tolerate disordered behavior of all kinds by the same people (the phobiphobes) who deny the right of others to forthrightly discuss the results of that behavior. - Other Joe Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:31:13 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-10967 This piece is regrettable in a blog promoting Catholic virtue. Those who have been born with same sex attraction need our prayers and understanding, not ridicule. Judge not; lest ye be judged. - will manley Fri, 20 Apr 2012 06:39:00 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/wheres-the-outrage.html#comment-10966 Conor Habib. The name attests to "diversity." How can we have too much of it? - James Danielson Fri, 20 Apr 2012 05:25:30 +0100