Comments for Exposing the Zach Walls Myth at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 13 out of 13 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Mon, 20 May 2013 16:20:25 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/exposing-the-zach-walls-myth.html#comment-13933 Agree or disagree let's at least get his name right. His name is Zach Wahls. Odd that even Zach himself missed this in an earlier comment on this article. - Frank Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:49:06 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/exposing-the-zach-walls-myth.html#comment-12385 This is barbaric. "Sexually perverse?" Quit being a caveman. This isn't 1950. "Homosexual debate?" You must be joking. There is no debate. It's over. We've progressed as a culture, it's your own fault if you're still living in the dark age. Please don't procreate until you've caught up with the rest of society; we don't need any more hate in the world. - Zach Walls Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:22:40 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/exposing-the-zach-walls-myth.html#comment-12003 The Establishment response -- and they now are the Establishment -- was predictable. But distinction between fear and self righteous in that response is no longer possible. The infamous creators of SOUTH PARK say there is no line they won't cross, but of course there is. Several in fact. My personal observations would bolster the report's conclusions. Thankfully we have the "mere anecdote" defense. But what are children for but to experiment with? Can't folks do the New Math? And the New Grammar and the New History and the New Science and the New Morality and the New Parenting and the New Theology... As for Jerry Sandusky, will his conduct be indicted in 2062? Think fifty years ago vs today. The Left and the Democratic Party are the Libertarians of Sex. - Graham Sun, 17 Jun 2012 01:19:55 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/exposing-the-zach-walls-myth.html#comment-11997 Post Script: Friends have told me that large portions of the testimony of Penn State's Jerry Sandusky's trial have been broadcast on news radio and T.V. They complained it was too graphic. I think this testimony is beneficial because it raises this question: Where were the FATHERS who were assigned by GOD to protect and defend these boys and young men? Divorced? Never present due to births out of wedlock? Jerry Sandusky is not alone in this trial. Penn State,Joe Paterno and the entire American culture are on trial as well. - Manfred Sat, 16 Jun 2012 04:45:44 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/exposing-the-zach-walls-myth.html#comment-11996 @tom: I'll step in for the author . . . The Witherspoon Institute is located at Princeton University and is run by Prof. Robert George. For more information, Google it. - Brad Miner Sat, 16 Jun 2012 03:55:34 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/exposing-the-zach-walls-myth.html#comment-11991 Why is it not painfully obvious that the real marriage bigots are the ones that would discriminate against one sex or the other in marriage and deny the child a mother or a father? This is not the sort of thing one needs sociological studies for, it should be seen as an inalienable right to have the mother and father who begat you or failing that, an adoptive married couple who can stand in for them - one man, one woman, committed for life. We don't call for sociological studies to show the ill-effects a Negro experiences being denied a lunch counter seat. Giving a child two males or two females for parents is like giving them two left mittens or two right mittens. Simple justice calls for an "equal opportunity" marriage (m/f) EOE. - Sue Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:31:50 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/exposing-the-zach-walls-myth.html#comment-11990 Would the author kindly tell us more about the Witherspoon Institute. I've never heard of it. How is it funded? Who comprises the board of directors? - tom Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:12:23 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/exposing-the-zach-walls-myth.html#comment-11986 What has always fascinated me about the "dialogue" process is that when the day ends, the Catholic is sitting on the curb having lost his position on: first, divorce, then contraception, then abortion and now sodomy. The Church must return to the position that She alone speaks the Truth. If you are not on this ship,YOU ARE LOST-HELL-ETERNAL SUFFERING. We have NOTHING in common with American culture. It must be shunned. Example: in our FSSP chapel, a priest announced in a sermon that male congregants were confessing watching porn on their computers. The priest stated that anyone who has confessed this even once must immediately place a block/screen on his computer. If this is not done, then the person should not return to Confession as his resolution to "sin no more" is not sincere. As the priest explained that if this seemed harsh, what do we think Christ's response would be when each one is judged! One mortal sin, unrepented, is eternal damnation in Hell. If we do not believe this, then we are not Catholic. Now, we either learn this when we can correct our lives, or we learn this when there is no hope. It is up to us. Public sodomy would never have been accepted when the Jesuits were preaching Death, Judgement, Heaven or Hell! - Manfred Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:52:42 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/exposing-the-zach-walls-myth.html#comment-11985 Thank you, Jon S., for having the courgae to identify the deafening silence concerning this issue on the part of our Church leaders with the Left. After all, it was Marx who accused the divinely created instituion of the family of being the root of all evil. The present state of affairs truly is the triumph of the parrael, counterfeit church. Yes, the smoke of Satan is in the Sanctuary. The promoters of the homosexual agenda have even adopted the Soviet practice of labeling dissenters from their diabolical scheme as mentally ill, calling us "homophobes" who must be isloatd and made to get our minds right. Thus far the disease; now to the cure: pray that more have the courage of Jon S. to name the demon, and get everyone else to say the Rosary daily. - Thomas C. Coleman, Jr. Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:19:35 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/exposing-the-zach-walls-myth.html#comment-11984 Good article, but you overlooked the worst misuse of such "studies": that is, by radical judges determined to remake society according to "science". When the Iowa Supreme Court decided that marriage is not an institution between man and woman and that society has no interest in the traditional family, it cited "an abundance of evidence and research, confirmed by our independent research, supporting the proposition that the interests of children are served equally by same-sex parents and opposite-sex parents. On the other hand, we acknowledge the existence of reasoned opinions that dual-gender parenting is the optimal environment for children. These opinions, while thoughtful and sincere, were largely unsupported by reliable scientific studies. The research appears to strongly support the conclusion that same-sex couples foster the same wholesome environment as opposite-sex couples and suggests that the traditional notion that children need a mother and a father to be raised into healthy, well-adjusted adults is based more on stereotype than anything else.” (April 3, 2009, p.54). - Ben Finiti Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:48:34 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/exposing-the-zach-walls-myth.html#comment-11981 The inconsistencies on the sexual left are remarkable. If one were to say, "We are only just beginning to learn how a departure from an old 'peasant' or 'hunter' diet affects the body's health," that would not be controversial at all. People would assume that what the human body had developed on, over thousands and thousands of years, was important in ways that we can hardly enumerate now. That's true of something fairly specific and measurable. It must be true on an entirely higher plane for such an elemental thing as having a father and a mother -- and I doubt that sociological studies will ever have tools subtle enough to capture the harm caused when children are deprived of one of their parents ... - Tony Esolen Fri, 15 Jun 2012 05:21:30 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/exposing-the-zach-walls-myth.html#comment-11977 So the Left has been offering as the norm the representative (Zach Walls) of an organization (Scouts) it hates and strives to undermine. And apparently the Left has been successful with too many people who cannot recognize a Trojan Horse when they see one. We have a parallel in the Church. Dissident priests and nuns long ago learned they would be more successful if they would package their dissident in a form acceptable to and disarming of most bishops and laity, who end up tolerating or buying into the dissent because of the way the dissent was packaged. The dissenting priest is more effective when he wears his Roman collar. And see how pious dissenting women religious are acting now that the LCWR and Margaret Farley have been exposed. Then the problem is that the dissenters have control of the great majority of Catholic institutions so that anyone who dares to play the role of Cassandra also suffers her fate. - Jon S. Fri, 15 Jun 2012 02:00:42 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/exposing-the-zach-walls-myth.html#comment-11976 The 2006 Pécresse Report on the Family, commissioned by the French National Assembly, was highly critical of the then existing studies. They noted, “Few countries allow adoption of a child by two persons of the same sex, and legislation allowing this type of adoption is very recent and has, in fact, led to very few adoptions. The lack of objectivity in this area is blatant. [Le manque de recul dans ce domaine est flagrant] The studies in question deal, rather, with children born of a heterosexual relationship and raised by a biological parent and his or her companion – a situation that is absolutely not comparable with the establishment of a dual same-sex filiation for a child from outside the couple.” It is worth noting that, in a country so committed to the principle of laïcité as France, no one suggested that the conclusions of this commission of French parliamentarians were coloured by religious views. The suggestion would have been laughable. - Michael Paterson-Seymour Fri, 15 Jun 2012 01:11:06 +0100