Comments for The Original Godless Terrorists at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 13 out of 13 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Sat, 18 May 2013 05:46:38 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-original-godless-terrorists.html#comment-12419 The French Revolution drew much of its philosophy from Rousseau, who was explicit in his advocacy of terrorism and the suppression of religion not controlled by the state. The Terror and its vicious anti-Catholicism weren't accidents. To use modern idiom, they weren't a bug; they were a feature. - Mark Sat, 14 Jul 2012 03:50:15 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-original-godless-terrorists.html#comment-12374 Belloc was emphatic that the anti-Catholic animus of the Revolution was an accident, preventable from both the sides and the Political Theory of the Revolution is not opposed to the Church. We should hope Belloc was right since the same political theory underlies the American Revolution. - Gian Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:06:16 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-original-godless-terrorists.html#comment-12371 Every time the Cathars or the Inquisition is brought up in referecne to the Catholic Church,"What about 'The Terror'" should be our response. - Deacon Ed Peitler Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:51:41 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-original-godless-terrorists.html#comment-12370 The Powers that exist today in academia, entertainment, and even in liberal post-Christian Protestantism are just as hateful of the Bride of Christ and just as worshipful of mankind's limited reasoning ability as were those who stormed the Bastille. Self-excommunicated Catholics are appointed to high positions so that they can be called the "Good Catholics" and those loyal to Holy Mother Chruch can be called traitors who are loyal to a foreign power that spreads "homophobia" and subjects women to forced childbirth. WE don't have to wait until October to start a Rosary campaign, but that would be a good time for a culmination of such a drive, centered on the Feast of Our Lady of Victory. - Thomas C. Coleman, Jr. Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:13:20 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-original-godless-terrorists.html#comment-12368 My child got the same old propoganda in history class about the French Revolution - you know, it was like, you know, about enlightenment and equality - you know...but that Robespierre guy...he messed it all up...everyone else was cool. The ugly truth of the French Revolution is avoided...it hurts the progressive narrative. - Chris in Maryland Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:11:22 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-original-godless-terrorists.html#comment-12367 There is an interesting example of the length and depth of unleashed fury in my family genealogy. Maria de Rabutin-Chantal marquise de Sevigne died in 1696. She was visiting her daughter in Provence when she died and was buried there. Because of her position in the court of Louis XIV, her letters to her daughter about the intrigues, flirtations, and gossip of the court later became the unofficial social history of the court. Almost a century after her death, the revolutionaries opened her grave and desecrated it. They dragged out her remains and scattered her bones as far as they could throw them. Back to the Revolution: the story of the Vendee is one of the saddest of all, as is the fate of of the Carmelite Sisters of Compiegne. That story may be read in "To Quell the Terror." The story was repeated 150 later in Novogrodek, Poland. Same story, in almost every detail. - the earlier Louise Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:50:11 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-original-godless-terrorists.html#comment-12366 Talleyrand, who was bishop of Autun and lived through it, summed it up perfectly, when he said, "Governing has never been anything other than postponing, by a thousand subterfuges, the moment when the mob will hang you from the lamp-post, and every act of government is nothing but a way of not losing control of the people." Not all those who supported the Revolution shared the anti-religious views of the Énragés. Robespierre’s Discours pour la liberté des cultes {Speech on Religious Freedom] delivered on 1er frimaire An II (21 November 1793) is instructive. - Michael Paterson-Seymour Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:53:32 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-original-godless-terrorists.html#comment-12365 Mr. Marlin don't you just go the full distance and call for a return of the Bourbons. - jsmitty Wed, 11 Jul 2012 05:35:56 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-original-godless-terrorists.html#comment-12364 The progression of results of the French Revolution were considered the norm of results of most revolutions, e.g. the Communist ones we know of, by our wonderful French Rev teacher Fr. Joseph Cahill, at our wonderful Vincentian university (Niagara). Our young today are rudderless because because they know so little history. (Fr. Cahill later was Pres. of St. John's U. in NYC.) Thanks, Mr. Marlin! Can you give us a broadened analysis of the French Rev, including its role as paradigm/protype, firstly how they mostly go very badly, and then, "how come" (as we used to say) the American Revolution did not go in these terrible terrorist ways? The Occupy Wallstreet movement scares me because of this. And the Church seems to have suffered a number of times such bad results, and is now in many places. Humanity stinks, I concluded during the breakup of Yugoslavia. God, help us! Jesus, I trust in you! - patricia Wed, 11 Jul 2012 05:34:09 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-original-godless-terrorists.html#comment-12363 Thanks for the vivid depiction and ironies of the "festival of liberty". Besides kicking off the idea of totalitarianism, the Bastille also kicked off the sexual revolution. Marquis de Sade, a prisoner up to the week before, makeshifted a megaphone and bellowed riotously to passersby, "They are killing the prisoners in here!" His perverted writings found fertile readership among the fevered revolutionaries and served to whip up the bloodlust so evident in revolutionary reactions against the Church and nobility. These writings and their ideas, so perverse none dare speak their names, were the seeds of our own sexual revolution, Aldous Huxley to totalitarians' George Orwell. - Sue Wed, 11 Jul 2012 05:05:54 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-original-godless-terrorists.html#comment-12362 Thank you for the reminder from history, Mr. Marlin. In the U.S. we have the Second Amendment which encourages readers of history to possess arms for their protection. This helps explain why the Department of Justice under Holder/Obama is attempting to subvert it through "Fast and Furious". There is a method to the madness of abortion-potential mobs have been greatly reduced by the use of this evil. If this seems harsh, consider what planners are dealing with when some sectors of our society do not graduate even fifty percent from high school of the children who began first grade. Are you aware that the building of prisons is predicated on the numbers of children passing/failing fourth grade reading tests? College graduates can't find jobs! - Manfred Wed, 11 Jul 2012 04:05:06 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-original-godless-terrorists.html#comment-12361 How many students in our "Catholic" schools have been taught this the last 45 years? How many people who have received bachelor degrees in the last 45 years know this? - Jon S. Wed, 11 Jul 2012 03:31:23 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-original-godless-terrorists.html#comment-12360 Brilliant and educating text. - M.P. Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:21:41 +0100