Comments for Universitas Orgiensis at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 12 out of 12 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Sun, 19 May 2013 05:16:43 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/universitas-orgiensis.html#comment-13172 Brad, you write, "Of course Mr. Harden is not wrong to object to the degradation on display at his alma mater. But his book will have no more effect on the cultural decline there than did God and Man at Yale these six decades past. Yale is probably a lost cause. But there are lots of colleges and universities where this sort of silliness doesn’t fly, because a different worldview informs their curricula and students’ behavior." My question with so many of the issues facing us is whether to continue the fight or whether to start something new. You are probably right that this book will make no difference at a place like Yale, and it is good to know that there are other, usually smaller, institutions where a student can still pursue the study of truth, goodness, and beauty in a full and robust way. Yet Jesus sent His followers out into the world, telling them to be as innocent as doves and as shrewd as serpents. Take American public education, K-12, for example. I have been a teacher for more than twenty years in just about every scenario you can imagine. From where I sit, nothing can save it. The whole enterprise, in various ways, is akin to that at Yale. Do we say, "Oh, but it is not as bad as all that," and stay in the fight to change public education? Do we say, "Yes, it is as bad as all that," and throw our energies into alternative, again likely smaller, Christian schools? Whether to continue the fight on the current field of battle or to move to a different front, that is the question. - Magister Christianus Tue, 28 Aug 2012 06:46:40 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/universitas-orgiensis.html#comment-13162 Fallen angels, so numerous that Padre St. Pio said that "if we could see them they would blot out the sun", have a lurid and obsessive fascination with the flesh of humans and how we luxuriate in that flesh. From their perspective this flesh is the innocent flesh of Adam's design, as lovingly envisioned in the mind of the Father, as well as the stupendous flesh of the Man-God: the flesh He deigned to take on and then glorified, praise Him. It is a mode of being entirely beyond them and forever denied them, the ultimate exotica in the universe. Imagine, a spirit enfleshed! Thus, these demons take prime and special aim at helping us degrade ourselves via our flesh. Most sin comes from fleshly sins. Some sin, among humans, comes from the spirit, e.g. pride, as it did with lucifer and his followers. But we humans are foolishly simple and the majority of our sins have to do with our flesh. Thus when evil men encourage their fellow men to wallow in fleshly sin, those evil men are simply mimicking the encouragement that demons give to mankind: "Sin with your flesh, o soul! Go back to Egypt and your flesh-pots: it is too hard to walk the way of the cross out here in the desert of the spirit." Thus this Yale thing is very serious, much more serious than this article presents. This article shies away from the level of demonic activity -- nay, control -- present in the culture at large and in certain epicenters of the culture: education. The same evil that is inflicted upon these co-eds is inflicted upon 11 year olds. But the millstone, no one remembers? Or the millstone, no one now knows about at all, in our post-Christian society? St. Michael the archangel, defend us in battle. The real enemy are the demons pulling the strings of the marionettes, the Mz. Brisbens of the world. May God bless her and save her, as us all. - Brad (not Miner) Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:13:45 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/universitas-orgiensis.html#comment-13161 We can all see the disease with all of its horrific symptoms. But what of the cause of the, uh, infection? It was not just someting in the air. TCT last year ran an indespensable article on Antonio Gramsci, whom we might well call Patient Zero. We have the testimonies of Douglas Hyde, Luis Budenz, Dood and others. This sexual nihilsim and erotomania are tactics being employed to destroy Christendom. We are defenseless if we refuse to name the enemy. Political Correctness is not merely a play on the expression Social Correctness; It is a euphemism for Party Discipline. I am talking about the party of Senor Gramschi, of course. - Thomas C. Coleman, Jr. Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:21:31 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/universitas-orgiensis.html#comment-13159 Jacob, the topic is the decline of Yale. However you decide to make an attempt to steer the conversation to Mr. Buckley. Please tell us where detraction and calumny fit into the "quest for Christ and his perfect morality" as you framed it? To the point, Yale and all the colleges that present this base non-sense as higher education are betraying the trust and good sense of parents which choose to entrust their teenage children to. We want our impressionable youth to be formed to make the world a better place. Not some captive audience so that a "relationship enhancement device" executive can sell their wares. This and their other failures need to be exposed. - Gregory Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:22:19 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/universitas-orgiensis.html#comment-13158 Brad, Buckley had class and the good manners to respond to every letter I wrote him back in the day. I'll never forget his putdown of Gore Vidal, threatening on TV to punch him in the face for calling him a neo-Nazi. Bill's Firing Line programs were always interesting, especially his wonderful discussions with Malcolm Muggeridge. - Grump Mon, 27 Aug 2012 08:41:09 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/universitas-orgiensis.html#comment-13157 @Jacob: If I'm correctly reading what you've written, I don't think we ever had a less Christian comment at TCT. Did you just suggest that my dear friend Bill Buckley is in hell? If so, I'd sure like to know how you divined such information. The entrails of a pigeon perhaps? - Brad Miner Mon, 27 Aug 2012 07:44:36 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/universitas-orgiensis.html#comment-13156 Jacob, you've made this claim about Buckley before. It's a serious charge against a man no longer around to defend himself. What's the evidence for this - which seems quite improbable to me. - Robert Royal Mon, 27 Aug 2012 07:19:30 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/universitas-orgiensis.html#comment-13154 It's sad to witness the steep decline of Yale, founded in 1701 with the motto Lux et Veritas (Light and Truth) and whose distinguished alumni include five Presidents. (Unfortunately Clinton was one of them and probably would love Sex Week). It's not the only Ivy League school, however, that's seen better days. Harvard and Princeton are no longer what they used to be. Likewise, many Catholic universities, particularly Notre Dame and Georgetown, have become bastions of liberalism, their reputations badly tarnished by bowing to modernity. - Grump Mon, 27 Aug 2012 04:46:52 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/universitas-orgiensis.html#comment-13153 So Buckely, despite whatever virtues he had, supported baby murder. But he was smart and you guys would have loved to bull*#%$ with him so that makes what he said better? All along I thought we were here to discuss the quest for Christ and his perfect morality, but sometimes it can seem more like a quest for the perfect intellect, as defined by WFB and his RINO disciples. Also can someone explain to me how NR being for segregation fits in to all this? I'm not sure how it's ok to end up in hell if you got there by a more distinguished road. Of course we have hope that Christ will save even Mr. Buckley for his horrific sins, not just Mr. Harden. - Jacob R Mon, 27 Aug 2012 04:21:44 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/universitas-orgiensis.html#comment-13151 “safe, sane, and consensual.” How the hell (and I don't use that word lightly here...) is anything that Mr. Harden described in this article safe and sane, whether or not it is "consensual"? Perhaps some folks think that "one out of three ain't bad"? - WSquared Mon, 27 Aug 2012 03:12:22 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/universitas-orgiensis.html#comment-13150 Sick. Shocking, really-- but even more shocking is the fact that we can still be shocked by ANY sector of America's falling like lightning, after a few years of Caligula's own proclamations on ethics expediting such evils. Glad you said something -- it'll help some parents of college-bound kids to not be so enamored of Yale (et al)--and that seems the one place left to us to efficaciously counter-smite a willfully filthy beast: the wallet. - Carol O. Mon, 27 Aug 2012 03:08:02 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/universitas-orgiensis.html#comment-13148 I blushed reading it, but very informative, thanks! - Jack,CT Mon, 27 Aug 2012 01:41:36 +0100