Comments for Mrs. Christ, teacher of Christology at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 6 out of 6 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:56:47 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/mrs-christ-teacher-of-christology.html#comment-13766 The issue is not priestly celibacy, DS, but Christ's. You're right about married priests in other Catholic rites -- to be accurate, about the possibility of ordination to priesthood for married men, since, once ordained, they cannot marry nor, if widowed, marry a second time; their bishops are all celibates, no?, as will be the bishops of the Anglican Ordinariate. If Jesus was married, he was "just a man," and if he was "just a man," then what he has on offer is merely one more religious option. And that is what many professors of Harvard Divinity School, and others, would like to see proclaimed as true. Jesus Christ made claims about himself that no other historical figure has, and the Church he founded makes unique claims about him. Those claims are either true or false; and, if false, they are advanced by liars or fools; and even if a third option were available as to the character of the proponents, certainly all that Christ teaches would not be binding. There are many who would like it to be so... - Dave Sun, 07 Oct 2012 04:04:31 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/mrs-christ-teacher-of-christology.html#comment-13761 Mandatory celibacy is indeed loaded with symbolism, but it is discipline and not dogma. To be accurate, the Roman (ie, Latin Rite) Catholic Church requires celibacy. Other Catholic Churches (eg, Ukrainian, Melkite) do not. Do married Catholic priests in these traditions not give themselves to all people equally or inadequately reflect Jesus' ministry? And even within Roman Catholicism, we are all aware of the recent exceptions that the Church has made re. married Anglican clergy. - DS Sat, 06 Oct 2012 18:01:23 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/mrs-christ-teacher-of-christology.html#comment-13760 @Mack, Like, for sure, and that Lady Pope, Joanna, or whatever. ha ha - Randall Sat, 06 Oct 2012 16:47:57 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/mrs-christ-teacher-of-christology.html#comment-13759 But there MUST have been a Mrs. Christ because, like, y'know, a professor said it, like, and it was, like, on the internet, you know, like, and they had these pictures and stuff, like, you know, and real old writing, and, like, stuff, you know the Vatican and that old Pope are covering this up and the albino monk and stuff, and they've found that the Pope was Hitler's cousin, yeah, but do you ever read that, noooooooooooo. For the very literal -- sarcasm alert. - Mack Hall Sat, 06 Oct 2012 14:05:04 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/mrs-christ-teacher-of-christology.html#comment-13757 Once again, one of the things I most love about The Catholic Thing, together with the perspective and the depth of articles that are by nature brief, is its linkage to superb bibliography. Thank you, Professor Bonagura. There will be some who will never accept that a fully alive, fully adult person could voluntarily choose to be a eunuch for the sake of the Kingdom of Heaven and who grab onto any shred of "evidence," however fragmentary, however inconclusive, to make their case for can we call it "hypergonadalism?" So what if it was a fourth century text written in Egyptian Coptic? Here are the questions that come to this layman's mind: how widely spoken was Coptic at the time? How do we know the author of the text was even a Christian? What do we know about the author's ecclesial situation in the local church - in communion, under ecclesiastical discipline, excommunicated? What do we know about the texts's wider claims? How did the fourth-century Church respond to the fragment ludicrous assertion? All we know is that someone, somewhere long ago in an old language made an assertion that is universally repudiated by those who profess the religion at the time of the assertion, before it, and after it, about whose founder the assertion was made. It's important that it be answered, but still. And secondly, notice how no one ever to assert claims about Mrs. Buddha? The world readily accepts the claims of the Buddha's celibacy because people know that adults can live without sexual activity; what Prof King's "discovery" supports in the end is not an attack against celibacy, but an attack against the divinity of Christ. If he hadn't been divine, if he hadn't claimed to be the Son of God, and if the Church did not follow Him in teaching this claim, no one would care whether he was celibate or not. Vivat Christus Rex. - Dave Sat, 06 Oct 2012 02:44:50 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/mrs-christ-teacher-of-christology.html#comment-13756 Great read, Jack - Jack,CT Fri, 05 Oct 2012 23:00:22 +0100