Comments for Helping the Disabled: Fact and Fiction at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 10 out of 10 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Sun, 19 May 2013 10:43:37 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/helping-the-disabled-fact-and-fiction.html#comment-14946 @Austin,you have a great point,I am blessed to live where I do!,Jack - Jack,CT Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:44:46 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/helping-the-disabled-fact-and-fiction.html#comment-14945 Thank you for mentioning that the Holy See opposed the treaty, which I had not seen reported elsewhere. - Charles E Flynn Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:32:07 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/helping-the-disabled-fact-and-fiction.html#comment-14942 Austin is absolutely right about the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) -- and about the willingness of Americans to accommodate those with disabilities of any kind. We are a kind people, and we are light years ahead of everyone else. I think that diaperman (might I urge you on behalf of myself and of your other interlocutors here to adopt a different nom-de-plume?) has misunderstood Austin's point rather completely. Austin is speaking about the Trojan Horse. This very readily used tactic has us all unwittingly accepting all kinds of things that we would not accept were they in plain view; the tactic is to hide them within something else whose goodness is so evident that to reject the wrapper is to be seen as "mean," "bad," "hateful," you pick the word. The devil, as they say, is in the details; and if people look under the hood and say no thanks, or, putting it another way, do pay attention to the man behind the curtain, rather than obligate the Nation to who knows what, this strikes me as a good thing, not a bad thing. And I might add that nothing stops anyone, or any group of people, from doing something on their own initiative. Not every problem has to be, or should be, solved by "the Government." There was a time when we solved our own. We rely far too much on "Government" to "fix" things that the Government in the end cannot, nor should not fix. But this would require us to become a far more virtuous people than we currently are. Yet for that, too, there is grace... - Dave Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:15:13 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/helping-the-disabled-fact-and-fiction.html#comment-14938 Jack, Actually the American playing field for the disabled is far and away superior to any country that has signed the treaty. - Austin Ruse Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:14:39 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/helping-the-disabled-fact-and-fiction.html#comment-14937 "and hope that we can someday be on the same playing field as all people World wide. " Have no fear, Mr. Jack, CT. If we keep going the way we have been going in the past few years, we will be "on the same playing field as all the people worldwide". Our team is already assembled, the sky-boxes are full, and the stands are almost full. The loss of one or two generations of us old folks and the addition of one or two new generations (fewer in number though they will be) should fill the few empty seats left. - Maggie-Louise Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:58:56 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/helping-the-disabled-fact-and-fiction.html#comment-14936 The main line of argument you make seems to rest not so much on the language of the treaty itself or the intent of its advocates but fears about where it might lead. Seems like Catholic conservatives are making this sort of argument alot these days about alot of things. You certainly know alot more about the UN than I do, and have alot of experience staking out tactical positions where its measures are concerned, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. But when I heard about the Senate's rejection of the treaty honestly my first reaction was that the arguments against it seemed rather paranoid. I'll reconsider my first take in light of your piece. It is probably moot however since the new Senate may well ratify the treaty anyway. - diaperman Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:15:16 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/helping-the-disabled-fact-and-fiction.html#comment-14935 Bravo, Mr. Ruse! Thanks for always looking under the hood and advising us to do the same, especially on sneaky provisions to expand abortion and the rest of the "full spectrum." SCOTUS may go ahead and cite this treaty in future decisions, as it did with the Convention on the Rights of Children, but let it not be because the US ratified a treaty that SCOTUS has to uphold. A second, and, in my view, larger issue, is for more of us who are pro-life to be engaged in the corporal works of mercy both for their own sake and also because support to those who need the works also serves to undercut the perceived need for abortion and other aspects of the "full spectrum." As Bl. John Paul II would have put it, if we live solidarity and subsidiarity better, a lot of these evils are mitigated and we advance the coming of the New Springtime of Christianity. - Dave Fri, 14 Dec 2012 04:50:51 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/helping-the-disabled-fact-and-fiction.html#comment-14934 I don't trust anything the UN does. It is basically a front organization for statists and Islamists for anti-Christian and anti-Semitic activity. One believes the state is god, the other believes God is willful and arbitrary. Both are totalitarian in nature. These people are masters at selling their utopian schemes as humanitarian ideals, but the reality always turns out to actually help the strong and politically well-connected exploit the weak. It was ideas such as these that Pope Benedict XVI spoke against at Regensburg on 9/12/06. - Athanasius Fri, 14 Dec 2012 04:03:42 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/helping-the-disabled-fact-and-fiction.html#comment-14933 "When the U.S. Supreme Court overturned the juvenile death penalty, the majority decision cited the Convention on the Rights of the Child, a treaty the United States has never ratified." A favourite ploy amongst jurists is to claim that a certain treaty has become part of customary international law and so binding on non-signatories. The first example I can think of was the Briand-Kellogg Pact - Michael Paterson-Seymour Thu, 13 Dec 2012 23:16:41 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/helping-the-disabled-fact-and-fiction.html#comment-14932 Mr Ruse, I will never forget seeing "Mr Dole" on the house floor the day of the vote,how feeble this "Giant of a man and American",who sacrificed so much for all of us. The day of the vote I could not get him out of my mind,the "Picture was clear"and he must have felt just crushed! I pray for all of us with that "Label" as "Disabled", and hope that we can someday be on the same playing field as all people World wide. Thanks for a wonderful article I learned a ton! Jack - Jack,CT Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:43:09 +0100