Comments for Coming into Christmas at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 12 out of 12 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Sat, 18 May 2013 11:47:01 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/coming-into-christmas.html#comment-15007 I grew up with the Book of Common Prayer and such phrases a "the quick and the dead" and the Eucharistic prayer response to "it is meet and right" of "it is meet and right and our bounden duty." Those words still come to me at Mass now that I'm Catholic. I'm afraid I became a Catholic too late to be entirely dis-enamoured of the poetry of the 1662 Prayer Book and the 1611 Holy Bible. Perhaps there's a special waiting room or purgatory for Anglican-Catholics. I could do much much worse. And at Christmas that Anglican nostalgia is particularly alluring and moving. - Graham Combs Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:22:52 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/coming-into-christmas.html#comment-14996 I'm in my 50's and I can remember "quick and the dead." It would have been before the 1970 changes to the Mass language. I always kind of liked "quick." It sounded like we were darting quickly through life, like little fish. - Therese Z Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:24:38 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/coming-into-christmas.html#comment-14993 The papal magisterium of the Catholic Church has always urged the faithful to read the Bible especially the Gospels. One of the encyclicals on the Bible even quotes St. Jerome: "He who is ignorant of the Bible is ignorant of Christ." The way to avoid any misinterpretation of the text is the following: "One should always read the Bible while sitting in the lap of holy Mother Church." - Bill Foley Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:06:36 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/coming-into-christmas.html#comment-14989 Mr. Caughell: You can't possibly be 50 years older than I. - Brad Miner Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:28:11 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/coming-into-christmas.html#comment-14988 Yes, scripture should be assiduously read everyday, so that Christians in general may come to love the Word. But there's also a danger here, especially in the Protestant millieu that Mr. Manley found himself in as a child. I'll just provide a quote from Session 4 of the Council of Trent to remind Roman Cathoics that they have a greater responsibility toward the Holy Scripture than any Protestant does: "Furthermore, to check unbridled spirits, it [the Council of Tent] decrees that no one relying on his own judgment shall, in matters of faith and morals pertaining to the edification of Christian doctrine, distorting the Holy Scriptures in accordance with his own conceptions, presume to interpret them contrary to that sense which holy mother Church, to whom it belongs to judge of their true sense and interpretation, has held and holds, or even contrary to the unanimous teaching of the Fathers, even though such interpretations should never at any time be published. Those who act contrary to this shall be made known by the ordinaries and punished in accordance with the penalties prescribed by the law." (Celebrated on the eighth day of April, 1546 under Pope Paul III) - Ib Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:42:41 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/coming-into-christmas.html#comment-14987 I am older than you by 50 years and I can remember saying "quick and the dead". I do not know when the Apostles' Creed got a language update but I remember being pleased when told quick meant alive. I served as an altar boy all during my elementary school years. I have great memories of the many masses and priests I served. - Ross Caughell Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:31:19 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/coming-into-christmas.html#comment-14986 Mr Miner, thanks for your "story home",as a caraddle Catholic I find it Amazing we all find ourselves home. I have so much respect for people who choose the truth. Jack - Jack,CT Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:28:54 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/coming-into-christmas.html#comment-14983 Mr. Miner: Thank you very much for describing your personal experience of conversion. Such stories never fail to revivify me. I hope you will write more about it in the future. - Mr. Levy Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:55:12 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/coming-into-christmas.html#comment-14982 Here in Scotland, Christmas Day only became a public holiday in 1958 and the change was opposed by many Christians, claiming that, at the Reformation, the Church had been "purged of all superstitious observation of days" That is the reason the Scots make such a big celebration of Hogmanay (New Year)which had no religious overtones to which the Kirk could object. As Catholics, we kept both! - Michael Paterson-Seymour Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:28:49 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/coming-into-christmas.html#comment-14977 Mr. Miner - Very nice article. My journey into the Catholic Church was very similar to yours except I was in my 50s when the truth became obvious. Slow learner but a very happy and contented Catholic. - Don Stacy Mon, 17 Dec 2012 04:53:25 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/coming-into-christmas.html#comment-14976 I grew up a Catholic in a dry Protestant town. My Protestant friends knew the Bible. I knew the Baltimore catechism. Because there was no Catholic school in town I went to public school where I grew to love the Bible...via the "first thing in the morning" Bible readings in school, which occurred even before the Pledge of Allegiance. The damage done to our culture from the banning of school Bible reading is very, very significant. - William Manley Mon, 17 Dec 2012 04:14:03 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/coming-into-christmas.html#comment-14975 Protestantism, in 'reforming' the Church, having left out out the Victim from the Altar of the Cross; forgot, left out or did not receive the Fullness of the Holy Spirit, the Advocate, who came, as Jesus promised just before His Ascension, bearing His 7 gifts. The First 5 leading to The Last 2 of Piety/Humility and 'Holy Fear'/Awe of and Reverence for the Creator, The Lord of Hosts. - Clement Williams Mon, 17 Dec 2012 02:21:48 +0100