Comments for The Threat to Our Moral Fabric at http://www.thecatholicthing.org , comment 1 to 11 out of 11 comments http://www.thecatholicthing.org Thu, 20 Jun 2013 01:04:21 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2008/the-threat-to-our-moral-fabric.html#comment-262 To Leah: Concerning Evangelical interest in abortion, it my clear recollection that the abortion issue was an important issue for the the rise of the movement that included Jerry Falwell's Moral Majority, which opposed Jimmy Carter in both 1976 and in 1980. That issue, more than any other, gave rise to the so-called Christian Right - Thomas C. Coleman, Jr. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:35:48 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2008/the-threat-to-our-moral-fabric.html#comment-261 "Pastor Rick Warren of the Saddleback Church asked Barack Obama when the unborn child acquired human rights" No, that is NOT what Warren asked. Warren asked when \"a baby\" has human rights. In using this particular term, "baby," Warren was being very shrewd. And it makes the answer, that it was above his pay grade, even more chilling because Obama was unwilling to give even infants human rights. - Bender Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:35:26 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2008/the-threat-to-our-moral-fabric.html#comment-260 The battle lines are being drawn and will soon be complete. Then the chaff will be seperated from the grain. This will go past the Obama years, the roots of the problem lie deep in our culture. We may see social conservatives who strongly oppose abortion completely disowned by the GOP in the belief it will gain them votes. In the ensuing persecution we won\'t be thrown to the lions, (PETA won't let that happen). But we'll be de facto second class citizens at best. - Subvet Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:57:51 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2008/the-threat-to-our-moral-fabric.html#comment-249 Why can't the Church excommunicate some of these so-called "Catholic" politicians who have fallen away from the Church? One of the grounds of excommunication is apostasy or heresy, and another is procuring or facilitating abortion. Is this not exactly what they are doing? Excommunication is not necessarily a permanent state -- but it draws to their attention the grave sin that they've committed and may give them the "wake-up call" they need to repent and return to the Church. - Alessandro Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:37:54 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2008/the-threat-to-our-moral-fabric.html#comment-252 My 6th grade son, who attends Catholic school in Canada, came home yesterday with a detention after getting into a fist fight with his friends over my son's claim that Obama is the most pro-abortion president ever elected in the U.S. HIs friends all claimed that Obama is "pro-life" and have tormented my son over his beliefs for the past week. It is time Catholics informed themselves, not just about Barack Obama, but about the Church's teaching that abortion is intrinsically evil and always wrong - Alana LaPerle Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:36:32 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2008/the-threat-to-our-moral-fabric.html#comment-254 It is hearbreaking. Even in when bishops did inform their flocks of the centrality of Life iusses they were contradicted by some pastors who said such thiings as care for "undocumente immigrants" were just as important. Many Catholics are still tied to Abortion Party for ethnic and class reasons, the class in question being not working but educated, as in "GOP equals stupid." By the way, Obama said "above my pay grade," not scale. It's common government expression. What a weasel! - Thomas C. Coleman, Jr. Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:34:57 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2008/the-threat-to-our-moral-fabric.html#comment-256 "According to reports, they were so divided that they had to table any further action." What part of "a holocaust of the innocents" do the bishops not understand? - Bill R Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:33:23 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2008/the-threat-to-our-moral-fabric.html#comment-257 Roe v. Wade was not considered very shocking at the time. Many states had already decriminalized abortion or were in the process of doing so. The Catholic Church, the Mormons, and the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations were the only groups to come out against abortion. Even then, the Catholic Church was the only one of those three to encourage resistance. The evangelicals didn’t join the pro-life movement until the mid-1980s, because they thought it was one of those weird Catholic things. - Leah Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:30:01 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2008/the-threat-to-our-moral-fabric.html#comment-255 Civil disobedience has long been the only real alternative but it is only now that we are beginning to realize it. I think that Fr. Richard John Neuhaus expressed a similar sentiment during an interview on EWTN. - Amado Cruz Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:41:20 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2008/the-threat-to-our-moral-fabric.html#comment-250 Being a convert from Judaism, I have to wonder - If the WWII Holocaust was happening in America, would the bishops be just as timid as they are about abortion? Is there ANYTHING that would rouse them to bold leadership? - Mike Branhut Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:09:11 +0100 http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2008/the-threat-to-our-moral-fabric.html#comment-248 The timiidity of our Catholic Bishops is frightening! The moral decay facing our country too is frightening! Let's hear some good instruction from the pulpits and wean back our young people. They simply do not uncderstand these are "little murders." Thank you The Catholic Thing for your excellent articles. - Virginia Hoyns Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:20:08 +0100