The recent interview with Valentina Alazraki, Vatican correspondent for Mexico’s Televisa since 1974, was a very worldly affair. This was not a wise pastor sharing his wisdom about the broad sweep of history; it was more like a senior cabinet minister defending his record. Consider the topics listed in the Vatican News summary of the Televisa interview: border controls, youth, violence against women, media relations, McCarrick, the Viganò affair, migrants and refugees, abortion, foreign policy, irregular marriages and homosexuality. The focus was on papal decisions and policy advocacy. It was a thoroughgoing worldly affair.